Glee Appreciation Thread- Page 13

[Marianne2]

Posted: 9/29/13 at 2:13pm

As I have mentioned before, I actually did enjoy Glee during seasons 1-3. Did I know it was far from reality? Of course. But, it was a fun show. Season 4 I saw a handful of episodes, and I don't even know why I bothered. It became boring and didn't have enough of my favorite characters. Why would I watch a show where I can't stand any of the characters?

And I could probably list a whole lot of shows that are more straightforward and witty than Glee. There are actually a lot of episodes of Glee where I could not figure out the message. Like the one with all the drinking alcohol. Were they trying to glamourize teen drinking? Were they saying it was okay for teens to drink as long as they have a safe ride home? Funny, because the drinking age in America is 21.

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 9/29/13 at 2:26pm

I agree with Marianne. I enjoyed seasons 1-3. By the time season 4 rolled around, the novelty wore off when the show tried too hard to be unique. I'll still watch it occasionally...

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 9/29/13 at 3:26pm

"Yankee, of course I'm aware, and like I said I love many of their songs I just happen to like Michael better. Plus I don't really appreciate what they did to Broadway and the American music of the time."

Let me get this correct. The show you love ("Glee") is dedicating two complete shows to Beatle music and you don't appreciate what the Beatles did to Broadway and American music at the time - wow !!So I guess those beautiful ballads the Beatles wrote like "Yesterday", "I Will", "Something" and "And I Love Her" etc ruined Broadway and American music - lol.

As for prefering MJ, that is fine and you are entitled to your opinion but think most people would disagree.

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 9/29/13 at 3:38pm

"From what I can tell, a lot of Glee's problems come from Ryan Murphy telling the writers that they have to insert a certain song or plot line, even if it's completely out of character or doesn't work at all with the show. Then the writers have to warp the characters' personalities and/or the plot to make it happen. "

Like Brittany going to MIT and Sue becoming the principal - lol.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 9/29/13 at 3:43pm

JC pretty much said exactly what I felt. He was only co-creator at Popular (granted, officially I believe he's been a co-creator at all his shows--Glee was reportedly meant to be a very dark series when Ian Brennan sold his pilot script and Fox felt only Murphy and Falchuk's new approach made it work--interestingly Brennan is still at the show as a writer and his episodes often are at least somewhat stronger) but you saw every single issue his shows have suffered even back then in hindsight, as much as I largely loved Popular. Nip/Tuck was a show I found hard not to watch, but after the second season it became increasingly awful and offensive, even when Murphy seemed tothink he was telling important stories. The actors themselves actually spoke to Ent Weekly during its last years about how impossible working on the show had become because there was no way to understand the motivation for their characters, or to make sense of how quickly they change moment to moment.

I do think this style actually kinda works at Horror Story. That show has other benefits--right now its day to day showrunner (starting last year) is Tim Minear who has a pretty strong history in TV, being headwriter for the better seasons of Angel and the daily showrunner at Firefly. And also Murphy tends to do pretty good first seasons--or in the case of Glee first half seasons, so AHS' format works for him--not to mention it's meant to be a style over substance, gonzo horror show. I was hoping Glee would improve once Murphy (and the ever silent Falchuk who seems to get no credit--good or bad--for either it or his other show with Murphy, AHS) became so busy with all their other projects, but...

[Marianne2]

Posted: 9/29/13 at 7:58pm

UPN picked up reruns of this on Sundays. Just started today. Almost done with the 2nd episode now and it reminds me of why I originally liked the show. Rachel was annoying, but at least a little tolerable. I love Quinn and Puck. It also made me want to know more about Brittany and Santana. It also was pretty funny and not in a WTF way. At least that's what the show used to be for me.

[broadwaybabywannabe2]

Posted: 9/29/13 at 8:41pm

i loved the first episode this week...and i really liked the songs being intergrated into the show so well and sung so well also...:)...this board has been so mean to LEA MICHELE in the past seasons, and i am sure that some were rejoicing that she didn't get FUNNY GIRL...but...that isn't really settled yet and i hope she gets the understudy for FANNY...what a great story arch that would entail IMHO...and one more thing...this show is filmed and edited amazingly..technically this is as good as tv gets

[all that jazz]

Posted: 9/29/13 at 9:39pm

^Amen to that!

Yankee, again those are all indeed amazing ballads, but the Beatles did overthrew the existing regime of swing, jazz, great american songbook, etc., and partially removed show tunes from the hit parade.

Updated On: 9/29/13 at 09:39 PM

[ClydeBarrow]

Posted: 9/29/13 at 9:48pm

"and one more thing...this show is filmed and edited amazingly..technically this is as good as tv gets"

Have you ever seen another television show? ANY television show? This is hardly as good as TV gets.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 9/29/13 at 10:01pm

"Yankee, again those are all indeed amazing ballads, but the Beatles did overthrew the existing regime of swing, jazz, great american songbook, etc., and partially removed show tunes from the hit parade."

Forget civility. I'm just going to say it... You need to stop typing. Please.

[all that jazz]

Posted: 9/29/13 at 10:36pm

How could you forget something you never had?

[darquegk]

Posted: 9/29/13 at 10:44pm

The Beatles didn't overthrow swing, jazz and Great American Songbook/showtunes. In fact, they brought much of the nuance and sophistication of those genres, including a number of straight-up covers, to rock and roll and British R&B, two genres which were much more simplistic and farther from the "sophisticated music" you prefer than the more well-crafted blend of rock, classical, jazz, world and vaudeville elements that the Beatles would pioneer.

[suestorm]

Posted: 9/30/13 at 1:51pm

Yankee, Jazz, Nate, Lizashead is just a troll who only exists to scold and insult others with different opinions. Shes thinks she is the Hall Monitor here. Please dont mind or feed her, just ignore, like a mosquito, she will go away once she has her bite of you.

Updated On: 9/30/13 at 01:51 PM

[N2N Nate.]

Posted: 9/30/13 at 6:54pm

Liza's Headband cracks me up. She is like Jordan's annoying parrot from Aladdin who doesn't shut up LOL. She is good for laughs but not much else.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 9/30/13 at 7:51pm

The Beatles and the British Invasion in general certainly did change the pop music landscape--but it was already changing and people were already starting to talk about Broadway music no longer being as popular with the mainstream before Beatlemania happened. (And part of this was Broadway's own doing--as scores got more and more sophisticated and integrated even more into the shows they became harder to extract, no matter what the style.)

[broadwaybabywannabe2]

Posted: 10/1/13 at 7:12pm

Clyde (u did not make your case) Barrow...i stand by what i say...GLEE is as good as anything on tech-wise...and i think at 65 years old i have seen almost all the tv that one could hope to see in one life-time...:)

[ClydeBarrow]

Posted: 10/1/13 at 7:27pm

Um you're a 65 year old (man?) that is stanning for Glee. First this makes me very uncomfortable and second of all you're still wrong no matter how old you are.

You're going to sit there and say that this show looks better than Pushing Daisies, Twin Peaks, Hannibal, Six Feet Under, Sherlock, Broadchurch, Torchwood or Mad Men? Gimme a break.

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 10/1/13 at 9:24pm

Yankee, again those are all indeed amazing ballads, but the Beatles did overthrew the existing regime of swing, jazz, great american songbook, etc., and partially removed show tunes from the hit parade.

They also covered "Till There Was You" from THE MUSIC MAN on their first American release. If there was a pop music war, it wasn't the Beatles who started it.

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 10/1/13 at 9:30pm

Finally saw the premiere. Things that amused me:

1. We're supposed to believe they cast Nicky Arnstein first and then began to look for a Fanny Brice who had "chemistry" with HIM?

2. I'm sure she got 30 seconds before they started filming, but Lea Michelle was really dreadful in her scene reading. I can't believe they gave her a second thought, much less thought she had "star quality".

3. Why are the gay characters always dressed as circus clowns? I think their sexual orientation has been established by now.

[all that jazz]

Posted: 10/4/13 at 8:21pm

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rachel is Fanny!!!!! I literally started screaming and clapping when I heard it.

I really loved the episode overall.

"I like yeast on my bagel but not on my muffin" -Pure gold, as were most of Sue's lines on the episode.

The music was pretty solid too, although I do long for their show tunes...

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 10/4/13 at 8:28pm

I guess it's a matter of taste, as much as I love Julie Andrews and Angela Lansbury, to me a proper diva should be a bitch.

I hear only lovely things about Miss Andrews, but I hope it will comfort you to know that Lansbury has a spine of steel when it comes to the projects to which she commits. What she doesn't do is go around being generally unpleasant to people until she gets her way; instead--in my experience--she finds out who needs to give the necessary approval and approaches that person directly (or when he was still alive, sent her husband to do it).

And her demands always had to do with the show, not her personal comfort. She tended to the latter herself. (And IMO she was always right, even when it was my job to say "no".)

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 10/4/13 at 9:31pm

"Rachel is Fanny!!!!! I literally started screaming and clapping when I heard it."

Of course you did. You and, like, the two other people in America who still watch this.

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 10/4/13 at 9:56pm

GavestonPS - Very good knowing the Beatles covered "Till There Was You". If my memory is correct, they also sang it on one of their Ed Sullivan TV appearances.

Updated On: 10/4/13 at 09:56 PM

[ClumsyDude15]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 4:56am

I know this thread is known for being anything but appreciative of Glee, but it would kind of awesome if you didn't sh*t all over the upcoming episode. It's hard enough with the subject matter and everything, that I don't think adding BroadwayWorld's bitter two cents into it is necessary or fair. Hopefully you can show some class this upcoming week, I know it's there, somewhere.

Updated On: 10/5/13 at 04:56 AM

[ClumsyDude15]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 5:06am

Not to double post, but the set list for the upcoming episode [The Quarterback] has been released:

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Setlist-Revealed-for-GLEEs-Monteith-Tribute-Episode-20131003

And the promo for next week is here:

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/VIDEO-McKinley-High-Says-Farewell-to-Finn-in-GLEE-Tribute-Episode-Promo-20131003