Headband showing class? LOL, good one.
"I know this thread is known for being anything but appreciative of Glee, but it would kind of awesome if you didn't sh*t all over the upcoming episode."
I love that because Cory Monteith died of heroin and champagne that makes the tribute episode to him some kind of sacred moment that cannot be criticized. I'm sure it will be just as awful and after school specialesque as any other episode of Glee.
^ Right? That doesn't automatically mean people are making fun of Cory or Finn. Just looking at the song list and I saw Seasons Of Love, and knowing this show, it kind of made me gag a little.
I can't think of anything more disrespectful than having GLEE honor you.
Clyde u ignorant slut! I said as good as anything. I did not say better than. ... I am 65. My avatar is only 32.
And I cheered Rachel getting Fanny. I hope they can show what Smash didn't. How a broadway show gets it's shine on. I loved Rachel's mention of Smash Season one. not two! Lol. Wonderfully written
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The numbers are fun to watch - the problem is everything else. The writing is just so bad. Ultimately a dumb show - good concept, mostly talented cast - too bad.
"And I cheered Rachel getting Fanny. I hope they can show what Smash didn't. How a broadway show gets it's shine on. I loved Rachel's mention of Smash Season one. not two! Lol. Wonderfully written"
Yes. I have no doubt they're going to properly show how a multi million dollar musical that casts some random girl 2 months out of high school to be the lead in a show that will absolutely flop without a major star attached to it, will be an honestl portrayal of how Broadway works.
Remember when it was about a glee club? Like, actually about a glee club?
"Yes. I have no doubt they're going to properly show how a multi million dollar musical that casts some random girl 2 months out of high school to be the lead in a show that will absolutely flop without a major star attached to it, will be an honestl portrayal of how Broadway works. "
How true. Find it funny that SMASH got clobbered for having a newcomer like "Karen" be the lead on "Bombshell" for a short time but some people here think that is fine for "Rachel" to barely be out of HS and play such a famous role.
I mean, can you imagine any major casting director casting a girl without so much as a fvcking showcase on her resume to lead a revival of that magnitude? Her bio in the Playbill will read Rachel's past credits include high school glee club and a high school production of Rocky Horror.
If this bitch were real and this casting actually happened - this message board would explode.
Clyde, HAVE SOME RESPECT! It doesn't matter how Cory died. What he did was stupid, yes! But, this guy was a CAST member of this show who was beloved! Of course, they'll have a tribute for him!
Why did you write "cast" in all caps? Does that word require added emphasis?
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Though I just dissed the show I agree with criticism of Clyde questioning tribute because of cause of the actor's death. By that logic should there never be tributes to Billie Holliday, Janis Joplin, Lenny Bruce, Judy Garland, Elvis Presley, etc etc etc?
If they want to do a tribute episode to him that's fine by me. I have issue with someone saying that because of that we aren't allowed to critique the show itself which will probably be sh!tty.
For me, it's the reality of the thing that's going to make it harder and sadder to watch. I don't care how he died- this was a young man who died unexpectedly, and his friends had the downright heartbreaking task of essentially mourning in front of (and alongside) a national audience. The short promo they played at the end of this week's episode, I'll admit, had me tearing up a little already- especially the shots of Kurt in the letterman jacket and Rachel crying on Schue's shoulder. I remember reading some interview where the writers basically said much of the episode is first takes because the cast and crew could barely keep it together. For one week, I think I can hold off the snarky criticism because, in my personal and not particularly important opinion, I'm going to be too busy watching this kind of grief play out on both the fictional and real-life levels. I wouldn't feel right mocking something that I'm sure was incredibly difficult and emotional to write and film.
I don't mean to insult anyone who feels otherwise. You are of course entitled to your opinion and your own feelings on the show, and I have no intentions of telling you you're "wrong". It's just my two cents.
Lea Michele's face looked absolutely heart breaking in the promo. Most of the scenes for the Cory Tribute were shot on the first take.
"I remember reading some interview where the writers basically said much of the episode is first takes because the cast and crew could barely keep it together"
The writers could have handled this different and not put the cast through reliving his death on screen again for a entire episdoe. I know the cast probably said it was ok to do this tribute show but IMO the producres should have not done it. They could have wrote a simple but moving scene with Mr. Shue going to NY to tell "Kurt" and "Rachel" the horrible news and ending the show with Mr. Shue comforting both of them. I believe this would be touching and not putting the entire cast in pain. As episodes went on during the year, obviously you can have other members of the cast mention they miss "Finn".
I disagree. Finn has been there from the beginning and to honor him this way, IMO is touching. Even some past cast members who weren't scheduled to be in the episode called and asked if they could be in it to pay tribute to Cory. They wanted to do this because they felt like this was the best way to pay respects.
Will there be a "Just say no to heroin so you don't kill yourself" element to the episode? Because that is what happened. So they can "honor" him and pay tribute to him but if they're going to do that, they should "honor" him by telling all the kids watching that what happened was his fault and totally preventable.
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"I disagree. Finn has been there from the beginning and to honor him this way, IMO is touching."
Okay.
I'm with Jordan here. I also think mourning is private, and this is just a cheap attempt at ratings. You don't honor someone with making yourself money.
^ I agree there. This did seem like a ratings ploy, in a way. Some of the songs see very cliche and like they just needed to find stuff to use for this episode.
Do we yet know how they'll be explaining "Finn" dying? In the context of a character-driven show, suddenly saying "Oh, he had drug problems, but you just didn't know!" - regardless of real world context - is absurd.
But then, an offscreen accident is equally problematic.
Doing some sort of less gimmicky memorial- a storyline dealing with drug abuse, etc, dedicated to Monteith's memory would have been the best route. Have the writers hand wave Finn's whereabouts. God knows they hand wave a lot of stuff, and so do many other shows.
"Do we yet know how they'll be explaining "Finn" dying? In the context of a character-driven show, suddenly saying "Oh, he had drug problems, but you just didn't know!" - regardless of real world context - is absurd. "
Since when has GLEE ever been concerned with being absurd?
bwayrose7 - You hit the nail on that head with that post, and that's exactly how people should be.
Aside from the PSAs that are scheduled to run, there is no plan to say how Finn died. I personally think that's much better of a way to handle it, because their original plan to have it be about a drug overdose was a terrible idea. I'm not saying I agree with the way they are doing the episode - me personally, I wanted them to give Finn a happy ending - have him found his true calling in life off screen, and maybe have Lea (if she did indeed leave the show or need time to do so) have Rachel get Fanny Brice and do an out of town pre-Broadway engagement of Funny Girl that way the door could be open for her to return if she wanted.
Cory was an original cast member of the show and had been with the show since day one, and despite what his poor life choices cost him, he was a human being. Whether you were a fan of his or the show or not, respecting his life and the way in which the people grieve him is something you should do in the long run. What Glee chooses to do was run by Lea Michele the entire time, and obviously, the rest of the cast I'm sure had some say in the matter. It was their choice to do this, to say goodbye to their friend and cast mate.
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