Glee Appreciation Thread- Page 8

[all that jazz]

Posted: 4/8/13 at 7:22pm

And...

[SweetLips]

Posted: 4/8/13 at 7:33pm

No--'and'--just seems church supresses how you really feel[short term]..Let me now say that I always read your posts with interest and it impresses me that someone as young as you has so much knowledge[right or misguided] and will stand up to the seasoned contributors here with your opinions.

[all that jazz]

Posted: 4/8/13 at 7:54pm

Thank you so much! It truly means a lot. My intentions have never been to provoke hate, I just enjoy expressing my thoughts in regards to the art which I devote my entire life to. I feel nothing but respect and admiration for most of the seasoned contributors here.

[beautywickedlover]

Posted: 4/9/13 at 3:24pm

'Glee', what's that? Ryan Murphy, who's he?

[all that jazz]

Posted: 4/11/13 at 7:39pm

Glee is back tonight!!!!!!!!!

Sadly Dame Lea does not appear in tonight's episode.

Shooting star Updated On: 4/11/13 at 07:39 PM

[Marianne2]

Posted: 4/11/13 at 8:04pm

Darn, what a shame.

I'm hoping the rumors about Lord Tubbington dying are not true because then I will officially be done. He's the only reason I still have a little interest.

[all that jazz]

Posted: 4/11/13 at 9:32pm

OMG!!! That was INTENSE!!!!!!

[ucjrdude902]

Posted: 4/11/13 at 10:07pm

Tonights episode was VERY well done in my opinion.

[Marianne2]

Posted: 4/11/13 at 10:17pm

Compared to other shows that have dealt with the same topic, this felt very clustered and disorganized. Why did everything else have to be going on? The whole choir room scene felt so dull too. I get that is what happens when you are on lockdown in real life, but for tv, it was boring. Though I'm wondering if I would feel differently if I cared about most of those characters and would care if any of them got shot.

And now I will wait to be called the insensitive bitch for my last comment.

[all that jazz]

Posted: 4/11/13 at 10:34pm

I won't call you an insensitive bitch, You can't control the way you react emotionally to art.

I though it looked very real, it was all VERY tense and overall really well executed. I never thought Glee would do something as dramatic as this and was pleasantly surprised. I'm also beginning to love the new characters thanks to this episode, I feel like I'm finally getting to know them. That being said I can't wait for them to return to the show tunes and razzle dazzle which the next episode will undoubtedly provide. Beyond excited for Idina!!

[SporkGoddess]

Posted: 4/11/13 at 11:01pm

I thought it was so badly done that it was hilarious. So emotionally overwrought and manipulative. Archer inspired more emotion in me tonight in one scene than Glee did in that entire episode.

Also, AV Club gave it an F. I'd never seen them give an F until now.

Updated On: 4/11/13 at 11:01 PM

[Gothampc]

Posted: 4/11/13 at 11:16pm

Tonight's episode was why Glee sucks. They take an interesting subject and then goof it all up.

For example, the warning before the show was ridiculous. What did they do in this episode to give it a "warning"?

The only interesting acting in this episode was from Dot-Marie Jones and from Jane Lynch and the girl that plays Becky in the "shooter reveal" scene. (They really need to give the girl that plays Becky an Emmy. She does better work than most of the regulars)

Spoiler alert:

So Will tries to calm the kids and then goes running out into the hallway to find Brittany? Yeah, I'm sure that makes sense.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 12:52am

Murphy's shows always suck particularly when they handle issues. I actually think it is smart to do a drama that involves a school shooting--I get why shows back away from it (even, yes it's a soap, but One Life to Live had a big story arc planned around one a few years back but then there was...yet another school shooting...so they scrapped it mid story). And it would be near impossible to do one right.

But really a serialized show is the best way to deal with an issue like this--not something like Law and Order, but one where viewers identify with the characters. (I actually thought Buffy's Earshot episode--don't laugh--handled the issue better than most--that was an episode that originally didn't air because there was...another school shooting...)

I do think there's a benefit for popular entertainment to cover issues like this. Ryan Murphy shouldn't (he probably actually handled it best with American Horror Story where he tried to do it just for shock value and yet it made more sense.)

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 1:01am

(and yeah the heavy handed "twist" didn't even make character sense--since when has Sue been someone pro healthcare, etc?)

[dramamama611]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 6:20am

I believe the warning was to "warn" the Sandy Hook community. I have friends in that area, and they were PISSED when they heard this episode was airing tonight.

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 6:47am

"Spoiler alert:

So Will tries to calm the kids and then goes running out into the hallway to find Brittany? Yeah, I'm sure that makes sense."

Also, why didn't the students in the choir room who had their phones turn their texting/typing tones off? When Will told them to contact people through texting or tweeting, I kept hearing that annoying click. Shouldn't they be silencing their phones, especially when they don't know what's going on?

"I believe the warning was to "warn" the Sandy Hook community. I have friends in that area, and they were PISSED when they heard this episode was airing tonight. "

I read an article that a group was trying to encourage people not to watch the show, mostly people associated with Sandy Hook shootings.

[all that jazz]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 6:57am

Sue's plot made sense, although a bitch she's been known to making sacrifices before and making the right thing. We all know she would do anything for Becky because she remainded her of her sister. There wasn't anything that conflicted with the character, as her character is already in a sense conflicted and very complex.

[suestorm]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 9:51am

ERIC, Buffy the Vampire Slayer did a great school shooting episode a few years ago

[ClydeBarrow]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 10:09am

I guess Sue's plot made character sense because Becky has Down syndrome and you know how much she loves them. Overall the episode was pretty bad and heavy handed.

I like that Sue asked Ryder why he wasn't at the mandatory assembly and it was because they had a secret glee club meeting...which meant they had to sit around and sing some dumbass song.

When will we ever get resolution of the Catfish plot?!?! It seemed really ridiculous that he called the phone and it was someone in the room yet he couldn't figure out who's phone that was. I'm sure it'll end up making a lot of sense just like the rest of this great show.

[Patash]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 10:34am

"So emotionally overwrought and manipulative."

I wonder if anyone who has ever been in a lockdown with the sound of gunshots outside would agree with that. How is it even possible to be "overwrought" in such a situation? And manipulative is a strange word too -- was it an attempt to manipulate our feelings? Well, sure. Duh!

As to why the warning at the beginning. Are you aware the Newtown Advocacy group actually asked people NOT to watch it. I think the warning was pretty good as there would be many people who couldn't handle it -- especially those for whom it would hit too "close to home".

[Marianne2]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 10:34am

I agree that other shows have done better episodes that involved shootings. I guess maybe I just don't understand why people thought this one was so intense. I actually had no idea they were going to do this, so I went in blindly. Again, I was really interested in the Lord Tubbington subplot. And, I actually think that took away from the tragedy. Same with the catfishing with Ryder.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 10:58am

I think the metronome clicking was heavy-handed. In the scene, you have people moving around in the room, Sam getting hysterical, Ryder doing his calling, yet nobody jumps to grab the metronome and silence it.

I also wonder about how the shot was noticed. It seemed like everyone in the entire school heard it. It doesn't seem possible with a school that size.

I also thought the tableaux was sloppily done. The mother is just standing there crying over her pot of spaghetti? Does she make an attempt to hide? And I knew who did it about 5 seconds into the shooting because everyone was being shown but Sue and Becky. Didn't anyone have any concern for Becky's safety?

And why was Tina not in class? What did she do to offend Ryan Murphy that she wasn't in the scene. And whatever happened to Sugar and the kid with the long hair?

And in classic form of Glee episodes past, why didn't Rachel, Kurt, Finn, Puck, Santana, Mercedes, Quinn and Mike come flying in to hug the group and sing a song with them?

[Kad]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 11:00am

Given the episode's topical "issues", it just raises the question of "What does Glee want to be?" again. Is it Degrassi with songs? Is it an after-school special but not?

[SporkGoddess]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 11:11am

I wonder if anyone who has ever been in a lockdown with the sound of gunshots outside would agree with that. How is it even possible to be "overwrought" in such a situation? And manipulative is a strange word too -- was it an attempt to manipulate our feelings? Well, sure. Duh!

Emotion should be earned and Glee's writing for this episode did not earn it. Showing those clips of the kids tearfully saying goodbye at the end of the show is an example of them trying to wring emotion out of us without having worked for it.

And yes, overwrought and manipulative. This plot twist was in no way organic (Becky? Seriously?) and existed only so the writers could pat themselves on the back for covering such a serious issue, and so they could make their viewers upset.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 4/12/13 at 11:12am

Glee (and Murphy shows) have always had that problem. You can't really do fat jokes for half a year and then have an episode about how those jokes really hurt people. I appreciate how much acting he has given people with Down's work. I have a cousin who has the condition and I know he loves the show, but I admit the way it's used in his shows always makes me uncomfortable--and maybe part of that is my own problem.

We are getting to the "reveal" that the person who can't reveal herself to Ryder is Unique, right? I can only imagine how that will play out.

It's funny this year, as unrealistic as it is, I've actually kinda enjoyed all the New York based stuff. I feel like they should have just transfered the show's focus there.

Marianne said: "Again, I was really interested in the Lord Tubbington subplot. And, I actually think that took away from the tragedy. Same with the catfishing with Ryder."

I agree--if Murphy and crew wanted to do a "very special episode" I think they should have stuck to their guns (so to speak) and not felt the need to mix it all up.