HOLLER hollerin' away?

[oncemorewithfeeling2]

Posted: 6/24/14 at 10:27pm

...as mentioned on here as well. Last week's totals were about $170,000, a number that's sad to even think about. The show was a huge risk. I hope it's reworked and rethought and tried in the future, with a new book.


NY Post citing industry sources Updated On: 6/24/14 at 10:27 PM

[haterobics]

Posted: 6/24/14 at 10:34pm

You want the show to come back... only reworked, rethought, and with a new book? I think you just want a different show with Tupac music.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 6/24/14 at 10:44pm

Jesus, what a waste of everyones time, money, and effort. That producer is spot on, there was never any demographic for this show. I don't understand how they didnt see that.

[oncemorewithfeeling2]

Posted: 6/24/14 at 10:46pm

Hey, I'm totally open a rap musical on broadway. I just want that doesn't have a high school after school special feel about it and has a bearable book. The dance and most of the music in Holler was tight. We can keep that

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 6/24/14 at 10:53pm

I'm for all kinds of music on Broadway too, but this was terrible way to do it. I hope it finds success in regional theater after they work on it a bit.

[Mr. Nowack]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 1:07am

It really is too bad it didn't work out. It was an intriguing concept, with some killer talent involved, but poor leadership seems to have sunk it. And its limited audience.

[RippedMan]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 2:21am

It just seemed rushed. Not sure what the point of it is was. Why not take it out of town first or workshop it somewhere?

[Elfuhbuh]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 2:31am

If I didn't know better, I'd say Max Bialystock was behind this.

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 8:31am

Not defending Holler, but RippedMan, you should have some info before you post. There were two recent workshops that I know of, and Ben Thompson has been tweeting that they've been working on it for 4+ years. So it's not that they didn't workshop it.

[newintown]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 9:08am

"I think you just want a different show with Tupac music."

As has been frequently pointed out and just as frequently ignored, the music in this show is not by Tupac. Tupac wrote the words.

No one, sadly, actually seems to have the slightest interest in the music of this show, or the person or persons who wrote it.

[theatremom2]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 9:14am

Ironic that with a show with 'hear me' in the title no one was listening. There is no evidence of collaboration or leadership. It is as if the producers expected the different aspects of the show to snap together like a childs puzzle 2 weeks before rehersal without prior planning or forethought. In 2 workshops, nobody noticed problems with the book and other techicical feature?. It isn't like they weren't warned. Which they chose to dismiss



Updated On: 6/25/14 at 09:14 AM

[haterobics]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 11:18am

"As has been frequently pointed out and just as frequently ignored, the music in this show is not by Tupac. Tupac wrote the words. "

Interesting. I think I got that impression from their tagline, which is: "The Music is Tupac. The Story Is Now."

"In 2 workshops, nobody noticed problems with the book and other techicical feature?"

From what I heard, although I don't know which of the workshops it refers to, the impression was that the book needed a lot of work after the workshop.

"they've been working on it for 4+ years."

Duration of time has no correlation to quality of work.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 11:20am

Newintown is technically correct. It is not the music of Tupac but, rather, the words of Tupac. Tupac wrote lyrics and poems and rhymes. Not music. He was not a composer. But that's probably nitpicking a little too much since he did produce all of those songs thus making it the "music of Tupac."

[newintown]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 11:29am

I didn't know until now that "producer" and "composer" were interchangeable words.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 11:37am

still no offical word that this is closing on Sunday.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 11:44am

newintown. In the music industry, one could produce (or arrange) a song without having to compose it. It happens all the time.

[newintown]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 12:05pm

Sounds like a rationalization from a non-musician/composer to me. Composers should receive credit for their work, no matter who "produced" or "arranged" it later.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 12:11pm

In hip hop, rap, and techno, the producer is the person creating the music. It isn't traditional composing, but rather making use of samplers, sequencers, drum machines, synthesizers, etc. In other words, the producer creates the instrumental tracks but isn't a composer per se.



Updated On: 6/25/14 at 12:11 PM

[newintown]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 12:16pm

I don't know who it was, but the actual sung parts of Holler had to have been written by a composer of some kind, not just cobbled together by a studio technician.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 12:18pm

I'm sure you're right; I don't really know anything about the show. I was just talking about the use of the word "producer" in that genre of music. It may not apply at all to the score of this show.

[newintown]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 12:30pm

I understand your point; I might decry it as an aspect of our increasingly dilettante culture, where music is no longer actually taught as a technique, and so the average listener just assumes it "happens" somehow, rather than having any real understanding of the process of actually writing music.

[roadmixer]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 1:57pm

Of course Riedel could simply be guessing... Why would 'a source' indicate Sunday as closing when their playing week runs Thursday to Tuesday?

[haterobics]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 2:10pm

They probably just said this week, and he just assumed a normal dark Monday schedule.

Plus, their performance schedule may not affect what is considered a week at the theater. Like, their grosses are reported every Monday. And, what day they close could affect their rent at the Palace, etc. So, for a lot of other things, their week may go Sunday to Sunday, and the performance schedule is just different. Updated On: 6/25/14 at 02:10 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 2:34pm

I decried over you. Now it's your turn to decry over me.

[newintown]

Posted: 6/25/14 at 2:52pm

C'mon and decry me a river, Joey.