Broadway Legend Joined: 1/21/20
Broadway Star Joined: 4/30/22
Good for them. This was the most incredible night of singing when I saw it at City Center. I know the cast will be different of course.
A shame they didn’t film the original cast with that original scenic design but I’ll be curious to see how the tour version compares.
I had so much fun seeing this at City Center. Looking forward to having a pro shot of this one!
Understudy Joined: 7/5/25
Im not sure i understood anything happening on that stage - however, i still had a great time
Why is "Tink" now a woman?
Had a blast at City Center! Still have my "Newspaper".
Lot666 said: "Why is "Tink" now a woman?"
There doesn't seem to be a reason given. They’ve made so many changes to this show over the last couple years (like removing 3-4 songs or changing who sings them), sometimes I think they’re just doing different things for the sake of doing different things. Not that the gender of this character matters one way or the other. It’s just interesting what they choose to play around with.
Broadway Star Joined: 4/30/22
Just watched a few clips on YouTube and was reminded of what a great night at the theatre this was.
I really think if this had opened in the early 2000s in London instead of We Will Rock You, it would have been at least as successful and would have made it to Broadway with ease, which WWRY of course did not.
Queen’s music is wonderful, but Jim Steinman’s is far more theatrically inclined. I think it could have enjoyed a Rock of Ages type run, if not Mamma Mia level.
Just bad timing.
It's only vestigially the project Jim wanted, at this point. (Shades of his other big show about youthful immortals going the same way in its move from Vienna to the Minskoff.) He was dead set against it being a jukebox musical (his recycling habits inevitably making it one anyway notwithstanding), and even named We Will Rock You as an example of what he didn't want.
This time, he couldn't blame a star, though. It was his health that did him in -- 9 strokes, 3 of which impacted his ability to speak (forcing him to re-learn each time), all of which impaired his motor function to an extent that he could no longer compose at the piano. This led to a power vacuum where the producers, one of whom was/is his manager, made many decisions behind his back that he was far from thrilled with. (The constant battle was over the balance of book and songs; they wanted -- and eventually got -- "less words, more tunes," because more tunes equaled more ass in seats and thus more dollars and cents.) What's left of the plot is skeletal at best, existing purely as a loose framework to slot songs into.
(Not that the fuller-fledged plot made any more sense, but that's grist for another post entirely.)
GiantsInTheSky2 said: "Lot666 said: "Why is "Tink" now a woman?"
There doesn't seem to be a reason given. They’ve made so many changes to this show over the last couple years (like removing 3-4 songs or changing who sings them), sometimes I think they’re just doing different things for the sake of doing different things. Not that the gender of this character matters one way or the other. It’s just interesting what they choose to play around with."
I disagree that the gender of this character is inconsequential. In the original production at NY City Center, Tink was a young man, and the story and song assignments suggested that he was in love with Strat. I thought this to be a significant plot point in a show based on 70s/early 80s FM radio rock songs.
Just thinking about Lena Hall’s singing from the City Center production gives me full body chills. Everyone’s singing, really. Otherwise I have absolutely no recollection of what was happening on that stage.
Updated On: 7/27/25 at 01:56 PMFeatured Actor Joined: 4/4/17
I saw this in Toronto years ago. I love Jim Steinman’s music and thought the singing was great, but what an awful afternoon of theater. I would have just rather seen a concert of his music and thrown out all the script.
raddersons said: "Just thinking about Lena Hall’s singing from the City Center production gives me full body chills. Everyone’s singing, really. OtherwiseI have absolutely no recollection of whatwas happening on that stage."
She and Bradley Dean were perfection.
Lot666 said: "GiantsInTheSky2 said: "Lot666 said: "Why is "Tink" now a woman?"
There doesn't seem to be a reason given. They’ve made so many changes to this show over the last couple years (like removing 3-4 songs or changing who sings them), sometimes I think they’re just doing different things for the sake of doing different things. Not that the gender of this character matters one way or the other. It’s just interesting what they choose to play around with."
I disagree that the gender of this character is inconsequential. In the original production at NY City Center, Tink was a young man, and thestory and song assignments suggested that he was in love with Strat. I thought this to be a significant plot point in a show based on 70s/early 80s FM radio rock songs."
Silly of you to assume and share that two females can’t be romantically linked, first of all. 🙄 Mind numbing comments from you never fail.
Secondly, both the story, song list, as well as song assignments, have largely changed since City Center (as I mentioned in my comment) which affected both Strat and Tink’s material.
So yes, the gender of the character is largely inconsequential for more than one reason. Thanks though.
Does it matter if Tink is female now? Not Allowed to Love isn’t even in the show anymore right?
GiantsInTheSky2 said: "Lot666 said: "GiantsInTheSky2 said: "Lot666 said: "Why is "Tink" now a woman?"
There doesn't seem to be a reason given. They’ve made so many changes to this show over the last couple years (like removing 3-4 songs or changing who sings them), sometimes I think they’re just doing different things for the sake of doing different things. Not that the gender of this character matters one way or the other. It’s just interesting what they choose to play around with."
I disagree that the gender of this character is inconsequential. In the original production at NY City Center, Tink was a young man, and thestory and song assignments suggested that he was in love with Strat. I thought this to be a significant plot point in a show based on 70s/early 80s FM radio rock songs."
Silly of you to assume and share that two females can’t be romantically linked, first of all. 🙄 Mind numbing comments from you never fail.
Secondly, both the story, song list, as well as song assignments, have largely changed since City Center (as I mentioned in my comment) which affected both Strat and Tink’s material.
So yes, the gender of the character is largely inconsequential for more than one reason. Thanks though."
Mind numbing comments from you never fail. No one said that "two females can't be romantically linked". As I said, when I saw the show at NY City Center, Tink was male and romantically linked to Strat, who was also male. If Strat is now female, then that's another change since the original run.
Thanks though.
CATSNYrevival said: "Does it matter if Tink is female now? Not Allowed to Love isn’t even in the show anymore right?"
If "Not Allowed to Love" is no longer in the show, then it seems they have made Tink largely irrelevant, regardless of whether the character is male or female.
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