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How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?

How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?

worrell4077
#1How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 2:45pm

I'm really curious about this. When a lead or an ensemble member goes on vacation or call out sick, how do they decide which understudy goes on?

Fosse76
#2re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 2:58pm

They rotate.

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somethingwicked
#2re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 3:04pm

Most shows (in the case of two understudies) have a 'first' and 'second' understudy system where they designate which is the main cover and which is secondary.


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Updated On: 1/5/07 at 03:04 PM

Bdwy24
#3re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 3:08pm

My guess is whichever one is better. Or whichever is more prepared to go on. Whichever deserves to go on. Whoever is sleeping with the Stage Manager....

Overall, I think it's the stage managers call.

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LizzieCurry
#4re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 3:10pm

They rotate.

Not always. For various (occasionally unfair) reasons, some understudies rarely go on and others go on all the time.


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#5re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 3:27pm

no they dont actually rotate....... the character of elphaba for instance has a standby, 2 understudies, and a swing

in the case that a lead is out, the standby goes in, if they are unable to perform, then the first understudy goes in, if they are unable to perform, the 2nd understudy goes in, and if all understudies are unable to perform, they have a swing play the lead..... the only problem is the further down the line you go, the less of the part they know, so a swing for instance may only know a few lines and know the songs

what do u think they would do if no one could perform?


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LizzieCurry
#6re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 3:31pm

But not all shows have standbys.

what do u think they would do if no one could perform?

Fly someone in! It's been done.


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Updated On: 1/5/07 at 03:31 PM

Kringas
#7re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 3:41pm

the only problem is the further down the line you go, the less of the part they know

Why would that be?


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Josephine2
#8re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 4:03pm

It all depends. There are some contractual factors and there are some "other" (some may say "political") factors that go into determining who goes on. Some possible factors include...

~some negotiate in their contract to be given 1st preference (ie-they are "1st cover")

~sometimes it depends on who the director, and subsequently the stage manager prefers/feels is best suited (or is most prepared).

~sometimes if an actor is out for an extended period, and the producers choose not to hire a temporary replacement, they may rotate understudies. There are often rules as to how many connsecutive times an understudy may go on for a role before he/she must be offered the part.

Basically, it's all a case-by-case, show-by-show decision as to which understudy gets to go on for a role.

ThankstoPhantom
#9re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 4:06pm

He's speaking more of interpretation...they rarely get a chance to go on, so they are not as comfortable on stage.

There is no common rotation. Generally speaking, this is how it works:

LEAD
1ST UNDERSTUDY
2ND UNDERSTUDY

Basically, as pants2 said, a lead is out, the 1st understudy is called to go on. Also, the first understudy will often times be given pre-scheduled vacation weeks for the lead over the second, same going for personal day, etc. Sometimes the week will be split between the understudies, one doing Tuesdays-Thursdays, the other Fridays-Sundays.

The split-week scenario also can, seemingly, depend on if both understudies are in the ensemble. If the first understudy is a swing, they'll likely play the role for the full week. If both understudies are in the ensemble, the first generally performs full week, although they may sometimes split between the two.

Every so often, depending on how amicable the management may be, both undertsudies will get nearly equal opportunities to play the role.

ETA:

I have purposely left out standbys and swings (the swing could be included as a first or second understudy) to give a general overview.


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Updated On: 1/5/07 at 04:06 PM

Yankeefan007
#10re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 4:11pm

Lead
(Standby)
1st Understudy
2nd Understudy
Swing

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CurtainPullDowner
#11re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 4:12pm

Most shows do not have first and second understudies anymore.
That is mostly an outdated procedure, but I wish it wasn't, than you wouldn't have chorus girls crying in the wings when they don't get to go on.

I like the idea of sleeping with the Stage managers also.
(well, a few of them)

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Rathnait62
#12re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 4:15pm

That's interesting, CPD, I did not know those rules had changed.

When I used to work on B'way shows, it was indeed very cut and dry, the exact way Yankee posted it. I wonder why it's been changed, that always seemed to work just fine - there was never a reason to question who was going on for whom.


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#13how do they decide which understudy goes on?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 4:22pm

a fight to the death using conductor's batons and jars of battery acid.


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ThankstoPhantom
#14re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 4:23pm

I think CPD is right, to an extent....some shows are using the order less and less, but most still keep it going (sometimes to an extent, though). I know that The Woman in White used 1st and 2nd's (ie, Lisa Brescia always went on for Maria Friedman, but Leah Horowitz never did.


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#15re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 4:34pm

If you're in the original cast of Chicago and you're an understudy and Gwen Verdon gets a feather caught in her throat, you can kiss your chances of going on goodbye because Bob Fosse will fly out Liza Minelli.


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#16re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 4:34pm

MiNNelli.


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#17re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 4:45pm

Not exactly true, Matt. Lenora Nemetz went on many, many times for both Gwen Verdon and Chita Rivera, and eventually replaced Rivera as Velma. She also went on for Verdon before Minnelli joined the cast.


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#18re: How Do They Decide Which Understudy Goes On?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 6:03pm

Didn't they have to cancel a performance of "Brooklyn" because the Understudy and the standby fought over who went on when the lead was sick and the Understudy took a baton to her eye and the Standby got battery acid in her ear?

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#19how do they decide which understudy goes on?
Posted: 1/5/07 at 6:39pm

no, brooklyn was so lame they used rock paper scissors and both of them threw paper and dislocated their thumbs.


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