Into the Woods Official Movie Thread — Page 114

For Last Midnight I think it is at least definite the Witch goes back to being ugly and taken away from everyone with "punish me the way you did then, give me claws and hunch, just away from this bunch" and the other things, from the revival, point to her going back to her world with her mother, and it's not full of lava! But if you think it is open to interpretation, well...I just think some things are rather clear. Maybe we must agree to disagree.

Updated On: 10/6/14 at 12:18 AM

I cannot wait for Big Hero 6 and Into the Woods. Two films I look forward to them most.

I think Into The Woods is hoping for word of mouth for the most part. Which I think is smart until we get closer to the release.

I thought y'all might appreciate the link.

"Your Fault" from Into the Woods

Hex3, it's pretty clear from the lyrics what happens to the Witch in the original production. "Punish me the way you did then, give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch." In the 2002 Broadway revival, it's clear too, "Better ugly and spurned with my powers returned...mother, here I come." And in the 2012 Revival it's pretty obvious those are her mother's arms pulling her, but I agree it possibly could be something else. The only thing that questions Last Midnight is her turning into a snake and slithering up a tree, from which I don't know where you got that information, but it doesn't matter what they CONSIDERED doing. What I'm talking about is what they DID do, and what did end up in the final stage productions is pretty clear, and what we have heard from the movie sounds pretty clear too. If they keep lyrics like "give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch" or "better ugly and spurned, with my powers returned" or "mother, here I come", it is all pretty clear she becomes her ugly witch self again and goes to some other place, and possibly where her mother is. The only thing up to interpretation is where she goes and where her mother is, but those places wouldn't be hell or lava filled places or the ideas you suggested, except maybe an underworld, but it doesn't make much sense that a fairy tale witch would come from an underworld like she's inhuman. I'm just saying that sense and logic and putting clues together infers what happens to her, it's not all completely objective. There's clues.

You're trying to fit it all into your own little box. Why can't her mother be in hell? Why can't fairy tale witches be from the underworld? Why are you taking the rantings and ravings of a grief stricken woman going through a total mental breakdown as word for word gospel? If this is your own interpretation then you are welcome to it. However, it is just that.

And as for her turning into a snake and slithering up the tree. That was staged and performed during the LA run of the 2002 revival with Vanessa Williams before it hit broadway. I know this because of reports I read from said production and from a brief conversation that I had with Vanessa Williams herself towards the end of the broadway run. So, again, it was staged like that by Lapine himself with Sondheim right by his side. So maybe you should take this up with them.

Well, I thought if I pointed out certain things, everyone would see the facts about what happens to the Witch, but you guys have made good cases for why some of it may not be fact. I feel that the show spelled out a lot of what happens to the Witch per production (and now movie), but if you guys don't, then yes, we just agree to disagree.

Oh, but let me be clear, I know the witch could be born a witch, but being a witch is still in the category of being human.

Updated On: 10/8/14 at 12:26 AM

Doesn't someone on here have a friend who is working on the trailer?

I've thought about that as well. But remember, the Witch only turns old and ugly if the director wants her to.

Now, regarding the 2002 revival when she did, or any production where it is heavily implied she does, I've started to wonder if the characters are "really there". I've wondered if they are (I know the Baker's wife is), but it seems to me that the purpose of the characters singing (particularly the Witch) is to deliver the moral of their individual tales, and finally, the moral of the entire show, "Children will listen and careful the wish you make".

But, I'm very interested to see how this is handled in the film. I've heard it's not the same as it was in the leaked script (where the characters were obviously there). So, I'm very curious to see how it is handled. I actually wouldn't mind seeing the Witch sing from Rapunzel's tower...don't judge.

I'm assuming that since Alexander releases on Friday that if there will be a new trailer, we might see it tomorrow?

I have a feeling Disney will wait til next month for a new trailer, but I welcome them to prove me wrong.

FACT: The Witch asks for her mother to take her away and make her old and ugly with her powers back (who knows where)

OPINION: The Witch's mother actually did so...

Soundtrack will be released 12/16/14... meaning 9 days of other people judging the film before the actual film is released... lol.

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^I may listen to snippets of numbers, but maybe just the small musical moments, not the big ones. I'm definitely holding out on The Opening, Last Midnight, Moments in the Woods, Children Will Listen, and Stay with Me. I may listen to a snippet of On the Steps of the Palace, but only so I can hear if Anna Kendrick has the range to hit those high notes.

Also, as I feared, I think Disney is pulling a Frozen campaign strategy with this, and I think they are holding off until November (which to be fair isn't that far away) to give us a trailer.

I fully expect this trailer to be around 2 minutes and 30 seconds. I expect music, and I actually don't want to hear Children Will Listen. Though it's the moral of the tale, and is arguably one of the most famous songs from the show, I don't think it is the right song to advertise it with. They are going to need to market this to the teen-young adult crowd, since, they will be the people to make this film a success in IMO. I think No One is Alone may be good background music. With this music we get to see the darker parts of the story to show that this is not some light hearted family-fare. Then, perhaps an Instrumental of the title song to finish the trailer (with the release date and more images/clips).

Also, this is the month where screenings should start to pop up more. This time however, it should be the final film. I think they finished the Sound Mixing process, and they should be done with all, or most of all of the effects by now, so now it's just presenting it to the public (or private in the case of screenings).

Anyone hear of where some screenings may take place?

But, I do think that within the next few weeks (before the trailer), we will get a handful of stills.

Also, regarding the trailer being "pale and washed out", when I agreed to the original post dealing with that matter, I just finished watching the trailer (for the upteenth time), but on a small desktop that is not HD. After watching it on a screen that is HD...I can assure you the trailer has a nice balance of color, the saturation, shadows, and temperature are all there, and I can make out ALL the images clearly...even the clip where the Giant stomps her foot; I can make out all of the characters faces and costumes! You just have to view it the right way!

^The "nerd debate" is over!

And, actually we do have news on the film. The soundtrack release date.

Until something major happens discussion is open to anything related to the film. Afterall, it is the "Official Into the Woods Movie Discussion Thread"