Is Dreamgirls Still Coming in this season? — Page 3
Posted: 7/7/26 at 4:32pm
I'm confused - if they were gonna go with already established stars (which I'm not at all opposed to), what was the point of announcing a Nation Wide open casting call? I assumed that they were gonna go with unknowns for Lorell and Deena, and use Effie as the big name.
Also Re: keke palmer - her stage acting is..not good. it's very "Disney". If we wanna go star-studded though...Halle Bailey gets my vote.
I cosign Loren Lott.
Updated On: 7/7/26 at 04:32 PM
Posted: 7/7/26 at 8:52pm
Fred Mason said: "Jerry Mitchell is the only one who should direct and choreograph this."
Because Black women are not capable of directing and choreographing their own stories?! Sounds about white.
Posted: 7/7/26 at 8:58pm
i was gonna say that but stopped myself
Posted: 7/7/26 at 9:42pm
I bet Tommy Tune's vision for staging this would be brilliant!
Posted: 7/7/26 at 10:03pm
YvanEhtNioj said: "i was gonna say that but stopped myself"
I'm not Black but I was thinking the same thing. Obviously there are Black directors who could nail this.
Posted: 7/7/26 at 10:12pm
My unhinged choice would be Jamal Sims
Posted: 7/8/26 at 1:16am
Fred Mason said: "The original production of Dreamgirls was pretty bare bones, I actually think David Rockwell would be the right person to do the set as long as he’s given the proper resources. A glitzyDerek McLane set not needed"
You misunderstand what I mean. I don’t mean it needs a big elaborate set- I mean it needs a GOOD set.
Posted: 7/8/26 at 9:26am
kdogg36 said: "YvanEhtNioj said: "i was gonna say that but stopped myself"
I'm not Black but I was thinking the same thing. Obviously there are Black directors who could nail this."
Lord. A non-Catholic can effectively direct The Sound of Music. A gentile can effectively direct Fiddler on the Roof. And a white man can--and did, quite effectively--direct Dreamgirls. Heck, it was a team of white men who created all the material and shaped the piece into what it is.
Tommy Tune was Bennett's protégé, and works in a similar vein of creating the sort of fantastic stage pictures and rapid, cinematic movement that Bennett devised. It's easy to see why someone would think of Tune for this, and do so without thinking "We've got to get a white guy because there's no possible way a Black person could do this."
A lot of good names have been suggested to helm this. Tune is just one more. It could be directed by a Black woman, a Black man, an Asian of whatever sex, a white person of either gender. The question is talent. It's always talent. And because I know how ridiculous this board can be, let me be clear that I know there are as many talented people of color who could helm this.
Updated On: 7/8/26 at 09:26 AM
Posted: 7/9/26 at 7:34am
joevitus said: "kdogg36 said: "YvanEhtNioj said: "i was gonna say that but stopped myself"
I'm not Black but I was thinking the same thing. Obviously there are Black directors who could nail this."
Lord. Anon-Catholic can effectively direct The Sound of Music. A gentile can effectively direct Fiddler on the Roof. And a white man can--and did, quite effectively--direct Dreamgirls. Heck, it was a team of white men who created all the material and shaped the pieceinto what it is.
Tommy Tunewas Bennett's protégé, and works in a similar vein of creating the sort of fantastic stage pictures and rapid, cinematic movement that Bennettdevised. It's easy to see why someone would think of Tune for this, and do so without thinking "We've got to get a white guy because there's no possible way a Black person could do this."
A lot of good names have been suggested to helm this. Tune is just one more. It could be directed by a Black woman, a Black man, an Asian of whatever sex, a white person of either gender. The question is talent. It's always talent. And because I know how ridiculous this board can be, let me be clear thatI know there are as many talented people of color who could helm this."
Tommy Tune who hasn’t done a Broadway show in decades and who, after being a protege of Michael’s, had a big falling out with him, is never directing a Dreamgirls revival.
I do think a black female director could bring a different perspective to Dreamgirls precisely because the original creative team (other than Michael Peters) was all white men.
Posted: 7/9/26 at 5:21pm
joevitus said: "kdogg36 said: "YvanEhtNioj said: "i was gonna say that but stopped myself"
I'm not Black but I was thinking the same thing. Obviously there are Black directors who could nail this."
Lord. Anon-Catholic can effectively direct The Sound of Music. A gentile can effectively direct Fiddler on the Roof. And a white man can--and did, quite effectively--direct Dreamgirls. Heck, it was a team of white men who created all the material and shaped the pieceinto what it is.
Tommy Tunewas Bennett's protégé, and works in a similar vein of creating the sort of fantastic stage pictures and rapid, cinematic movement that Bennettdevised. It's easy to see why someone would think of Tune for this, and do so without thinking "We've got to get a white guy because there's no possible way a Black person could do this."
A lot of good names have been suggested to helm this. Tune is just one more. It could be directed by a Black woman, a Black man, an Asian of whatever sex, a white person of either gender. The question is talent. It's always talent. And because I know how ridiculous this board can be, let me be clear thatI know there are as many talented people of color who could helm this."
The users you quote were responding to the comment Fred Mason said which was "Jerry Mitchell is the only one who should direct and choreograph this." Which is a statement that only a white man should direct this. This board wasn't being "ridiculous" in calling that out.
Posted: 7/9/26 at 5:57pm
Joey Ledenio said: "joevitus said: "kdogg36 said: "YvanEhtNioj said: "i was gonna say that but stopped myself"
I'm not Black but I was thinking the same thing. Obviously there are Black directors who could nail this."
Lord. Anon-Catholic can effectively direct The Sound of Music. A gentile can effectively direct Fiddler on the Roof. And a white man can--and did, quite effectively--direct Dreamgirls. Heck, it was a team of white men who created all the material and shaped the pieceinto what it is.
Tommy Tunewas Bennett's protégé, and works in a similar vein of creating the sort of fantastic stage pictures and rapid, cinematic movement that Bennettdevised. It's easy to see why someone would think of Tune for this, and do so without thinking "We've got to get a white guy because there's no possible way a Black person could do this."
A lot of good names have been suggested to helm this. Tune is just one more. It could be directed by a Black woman, a Black man, an Asian of whatever sex, a white person of either gender. The question is talent. It's always talent. And because I know how ridiculous this board can be, let me be clear thatI know there are as many talented people of color who could helm this."
The users you quote were responding to the comment Fred Mason said which was"Jerry Mitchell is the only one who should direct and choreograph this." Which is a statement that only a white man should direct this. This board wasn't being "ridiculous" in calling that out."
Fred Mason a/k/a BroadwayFlash and 17 million other names also thinks that The Queen of Versailles was a masterpiece of modern theatre, so consider the source.
Posted: 7/10/26 at 2:51am
Joey Ledenio said: "joevitus said: "kdogg36 said: "YvanEhtNioj said: "i was gonna say that but stopped myself"
I'm not Black but I was thinking the same thing. Obviously there are Black directors who could nail this."
Lord. Anon-Catholic can effectively direct The Sound of Music. A gentile can effectively direct Fiddler on the Roof. And a white man can--and did, quite effectively--direct Dreamgirls. Heck, it was a team of white men who created all the material and shaped the pieceinto what it is.
Tommy Tunewas Bennett's protégé, and works in a similar vein of creating the sort of fantastic stage pictures and rapid, cinematic movement that Bennettdevised. It's easy to see why someone would think of Tune for this, and do so without thinking "We've got to get a white guy because there's no possible way a Black person could do this."
A lot of good names have been suggested to helm this. Tune is just one more. It could be directed by a Black woman, a Black man, an Asian of whatever sex, a white person of either gender. The question is talent. It's always talent. And because I know how ridiculous this board can be, let me be clear thatI know there are as many talented people of color who could helm this."
The users you quote were responding to the comment Fred Mason said which was"Jerry Mitchell is the only one who should direct and choreograph this." Which is a statement that only a white man should direct this. This board wasn't being "ridiculous" in calling that out."
You are right. I was wrong. Went back over the thread. I confused two posts in my head. Apologies.
Posted: 7/10/26 at 8:36am
It’s been a bit cursed from the initial auditions.
its looking like (semi) stunt castings of 6 weeks run each for Marisha Wallace then Alex Newell as Effie with the option to rotate if they wish.
producers saying that only those 2 could manage the workload and vocal stress of the role
Posted: 7/10/26 at 5:09pm
I just refuse to believe that they can’t find the right age-appropriate actresses for this. The girls are busting out of the seams with talent.
Obviously there’s a lot going on with the creative and producing of this show, but I don’t think this is just a casting thing.
My general feeling is (especially after The Wiz), if they can’t figure out how to do this the right way, they need to just not do it. I’d rather have no production than a lackluster one.
Posted: 7/10/26 at 7:49pm
joevitus said: "kdogg36 said: "YvanEhtNioj said: "i was gonna say that but stopped myself"
I'm not Black but I was thinking the same thing. Obviously there are Black directors who could nail this."
Lord. Anon-Catholic can effectively direct The Sound of Music. A gentile can effectively direct Fiddler on the Roof. And a white man can--and did, quite effectively--direct Dreamgirls. Heck, it was a team of white men who created all the material and shaped the pieceinto what it is.
Tommy Tunewas Bennett's protégé, and works in a similar vein of creating the sort of fantastic stage pictures and rapid, cinematic movement that Bennettdevised. It's easy to see why someone would think of Tune for this, and do so without thinking "We've got to get a white guy because there's no possible way a Black person could do this."
A lot of good names have been suggested to helm this. Tune is just one more. It could be directed by a Black woman, a Black man, an Asian of whatever sex, a white person of either gender. The question is talent. It's always talent. And because I know how ridiculous this board can be, let me be clear thatI know there are as many talented people of color who could helm this."
I dunno. It was nice having a Boys in the Band produced, directed and starring all gay men. I imagine having a black director for Dreamgirls would be pretty cool too.
Posted: 7/12/26 at 4:05am
Matt Rogers said: "joevitus said: "kdogg36 said: "YvanEhtNioj said: "i was gonna say that but stopped myself"
I'm not Black but I was thinking the same thing. Obviously there are Black directors who could nail this."
Lord. Anon-Catholic can effectively direct The Sound of Music. A gentile can effectively direct Fiddler on the Roof. And a white man can--and did, quite effectively--direct Dreamgirls. Heck, it was a team of white men who created all the material and shaped the pieceinto what it is.
Tommy Tunewas Bennett's protégé, and works in a similar vein of creating the sort of fantastic stage pictures and rapid, cinematic movement that Bennettdevised. It's easy to see why someone would think of Tune for this, and do so without thinking "We've got to get a white guy because there's no possible way a Black person could do this."
A lot of good names have been suggested to helm this. Tune is just one more. It could be directed by a Black woman, a Black man, an Asian of whatever sex, a white person of either gender. The question is talent. It's always talent. And because I know how ridiculous this board can be, let me be clear thatI know there are as many talented people of color who could helm this."
I dunno. It was nice having a Boys in the Band produced, directed and starring all gay men. I imagine having a black director for Dreamgirls would be pretty cool too."
Not sure what point you think you're making, as nothing in my post suggests having a Black director helm the project would be a bad thing.
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