Is James Barbour ever going to be back on Broadway — Page 8
#177
Posted: 4/1/08 at 8:51pm
jacobtsf, Thank you. That is what I have been trying to say.
And, Papa is right he isn't required to register as a sex offender.
If what I read was correct, he only got hit with the endangering the welfare of a minor because there wasn't enough evidence to say if he had sex with her or not
And, Papa is right he isn't required to register as a sex offender.
If what I read was correct, he only got hit with the endangering the welfare of a minor because there wasn't enough evidence to say if he had sex with her or not
"If you try to shag my husband while I am still alive, I will shove the art of motorcycle maintenance up your rancid little Cu**. That's a good dear"
Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll
#178
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:02pm
since oral sex is not really sex.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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#179
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:25pm
I could be wrong but I believe he "copped" a plea to reduce his sentencing and not be listed as a sex offender, and not because there wasn't enough evidence,
He admited that he had sex with her and he knew her age.
Any group that wants to raise the attention to their cause will go after this show for sure, if he is in the cast.
He admited that he had sex with her and he knew her age.
Any group that wants to raise the attention to their cause will go after this show for sure, if he is in the cast.
#180
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:31pm
"I could be wrong but I believe he "copped" a plea to reduce his sentencing and not be listed as a sex offender, and not because there wasn't enough evidence"
I heard that as well.
"Any group that wants to raise the attention to their cause will go after this show for sure, if he is in the cast."
Exactly, this is such a polarizing issues with strong feelings on both sides of the debate. Whether your cause is going after men who did what Barbour did, the "corruptness" of the registry, or a million other causes that can roll out of this issue his being in the spotlight will enable you to bring attention to your cause.
I heard that as well.
"Any group that wants to raise the attention to their cause will go after this show for sure, if he is in the cast."
Exactly, this is such a polarizing issues with strong feelings on both sides of the debate. Whether your cause is going after men who did what Barbour did, the "corruptness" of the registry, or a million other causes that can roll out of this issue his being in the spotlight will enable you to bring attention to your cause.
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#181
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:35pm
I wonder if this could impact the show even if he isn't cast. There could be people who are so against the entire thing that they would boycott or protest the show because the producers associated themselves with Barbour in the first place.
"If you try to shag my husband while I am still alive, I will shove the art of motorcycle maintenance up your rancid little Cu**. That's a good dear"
Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll
#182
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:37pm
and you're a teacher? christ i fear for the future of our country.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#183
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:38pm
Okay, now I AM going to call you stupid after that comment.
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#184
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:41pm
welcome to the dark side, eris. we have gummi bears.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#185
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:42pm
"welcome to the dark side, eris. we have gummi bears."
Fun. Do you have Reese's Pieces too?
Fun. Do you have Reese's Pieces too?
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#186
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:44pm
yes, but if you eat them drew barrymore's pet alien will follow you home and pass out in your bathtub.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#187
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:46pm
"yes, but if you eat them drew barrymore's pet alien will follow you home and pass out in your bathtub."
That might not be such a good idea. My younger cat will kill him.
That might not be such a good idea. My younger cat will kill him.
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#188
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:46pm
Your right that was a stupid comment of me to say.
"If you try to shag my husband while I am still alive, I will shove the art of motorcycle maintenance up your rancid little Cu**. That's a good dear"
Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll
#189
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:48pm
grammar. it ain't just kelsey's last friggin' name.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#190
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:52pm
Why do I feel there's gonna be a "Jeffrey Dahmer at PB&J sandwiches" reference coming up soon?
#191
Posted: 4/1/08 at 10:19pm
My God...some people are just DOOMED.
I give up.
I give up.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#192
Posted: 4/2/08 at 12:34am
"grammar. it ain't just kelsey's last friggin' name."
You're right. His last name is Grammer.
Also: capitalization.
I'm trying to follow this thread because I'm interested in the arguments, but it's just painful to read.
You're right. His last name is Grammer.
Also: capitalization.
I'm trying to follow this thread because I'm interested in the arguments, but it's just painful to read.
Nothing matters but knowing nothing matters. ~ Wicked
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"He's a tramp, but I love him."
Everything in life is only for now. ~ Avenue Q
There is no future, there is no past. I live this moment as my last. ~ Rent
#193
Posted: 4/2/08 at 2:56am
Will Barbour appear in Two Cities?
No.
Will the producers “stand by their man”?
Not in a million years.
Will they fire him?
Yep, better believe it.
Will the public ever know this?
Nope.
Here is the story:
James Barbour, the troubled convicted sex offender/sort of Broadway star, who spent two months in jail for having sex with an under aged girl, has decided to end his professional association with the multi-million dollar extravaganza, “A Tale of Two Cities” to concentrate on his personal life and rebuild his spirit. “The producers BEGGED me to stay with the show,” Barbour claimed. “They said I could not be replaced. I told them, ‘Nonsense, there are a dozen actors out there who can do it justice. Give one of them a chance.'” The actor continued, “I have made some terrible mistakes and need to deal with personal demons which will only be for the better for ALL involved with the show. I SHALL return to Broadway when the time is right and I am at peace with myself.”
Everybody wins.
The producers lose the liability of a sex offender scaring off ticket buyers while still appearing loyal to a troubled man with whom they consider family.
Barbour wins by appearring contrite and by saving face from being "fired", and in a couple of years will make a fine comeback.
The show goes on, keeping hundreds of people employed and thousands of fans entertained. EVERYBODY WINS!
Except the victim.
No.
Will the producers “stand by their man”?
Not in a million years.
Will they fire him?
Yep, better believe it.
Will the public ever know this?
Nope.
Here is the story:
James Barbour, the troubled convicted sex offender/sort of Broadway star, who spent two months in jail for having sex with an under aged girl, has decided to end his professional association with the multi-million dollar extravaganza, “A Tale of Two Cities” to concentrate on his personal life and rebuild his spirit. “The producers BEGGED me to stay with the show,” Barbour claimed. “They said I could not be replaced. I told them, ‘Nonsense, there are a dozen actors out there who can do it justice. Give one of them a chance.'” The actor continued, “I have made some terrible mistakes and need to deal with personal demons which will only be for the better for ALL involved with the show. I SHALL return to Broadway when the time is right and I am at peace with myself.”
Everybody wins.
The producers lose the liability of a sex offender scaring off ticket buyers while still appearing loyal to a troubled man with whom they consider family.
Barbour wins by appearring contrite and by saving face from being "fired", and in a couple of years will make a fine comeback.
The show goes on, keeping hundreds of people employed and thousands of fans entertained. EVERYBODY WINS!
Except the victim.
PEACE.
#194
Posted: 4/2/08 at 3:06am
I've said before that Barbour ought to back out on his own. It'd be the classy thing to do.
Sueleen, I wish you were quoting from a real article.
Sueleen, I wish you were quoting from a real article.
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#195
Posted: 4/2/08 at 3:10am
No, the real article should read:
"Producers come to senses, fire convicted sex offender.
Victim still the biggest loser."
"Producers come to senses, fire convicted sex offender.
Victim still the biggest loser."
PEACE.
#196
Posted: 4/2/08 at 7:05am
Back to the school trip aspect, which accounts for lots of group sales. A few years ago, I chaperoned a high school chorus from northern NJ to Cleveland. One of the highlights of the trip was catching a performance of Rent's touring company. A bunch of the kids had seen it in NYC, of course; some multiple times. I can tell you that a couple of the chaperones flipped out that these young impressionable minds were being subjected to such content. (Ironically, the most vocal woman was the mom of a girl who had a rep as one of the "fastest" girls in school.)
Don't, for a second, discount the PTA rage factor in mid-America (which starts at the Hudson River...)
Don't, for a second, discount the PTA rage factor in mid-America (which starts at the Hudson River...)
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#197
Posted: 4/2/08 at 8:41am
True true. There are also a lot of school groups who visit NYC from elsewhere in the country. This could add to the potential complaints.
"If you try to shag my husband while I am still alive, I will shove the art of motorcycle maintenance up your rancid little Cu**. That's a good dear"
Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll
#198
Posted: 4/2/08 at 10:28am
no. ya think?
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#199
Posted: 4/2/08 at 11:56am
He is not a sex offender in the eyes of the law. Some of you need to stop labelling him as such. He was convicted of endangering the welfare of a child. There are no qualifiers for that designation (i.e., the nature of the offense isn't part of the conviction title, so without further inquiry you wouldn't know what the offense was), which is why he is required to disclose that information to potential employers. Morally, is he a sex offender? Maybe. Considering less than 100 years ago it was acceptable for a man his age to marry a girl her age I guess that depends on ones own moral compass. In todays standards, he certainly is. But since the law doesn't consider him a sex offender than no one here should, because it can bring about a lot of problems, and libelous statements could cause the site itself legal problems (since it is moderated).
That said, personally I don't think it will cause the uproar many are predicting should he stay with the show. As I said earlier, if the parents or the girl don't make a big fuss, then I don't see anyone else doing so. History shows that the organizers of such demonstrations are usually affiliated with the victim in some manner. The examples with Corpus Christi aren't entirely relevant, since religious lunatics are more ferocious with protesting. Had he forced her to have oral sex while chanting the Devil is God, then maybe we'd see something. If he were a bigger star with more media coverage we would probably see something. But I doubt we'll see much of anything. I guess it really depends on how the press covers it.
As for the show's failure if he is in it, I don't see how anyone would be able to prove it. I didn't plan on seeing it before, so I certainly don't have any plans on seeing it now, with or without Barbour. And I think some of you overestimate how many schools require this as reading. It's usually only on recommended reading lists.
That said, personally I don't think it will cause the uproar many are predicting should he stay with the show. As I said earlier, if the parents or the girl don't make a big fuss, then I don't see anyone else doing so. History shows that the organizers of such demonstrations are usually affiliated with the victim in some manner. The examples with Corpus Christi aren't entirely relevant, since religious lunatics are more ferocious with protesting. Had he forced her to have oral sex while chanting the Devil is God, then maybe we'd see something. If he were a bigger star with more media coverage we would probably see something. But I doubt we'll see much of anything. I guess it really depends on how the press covers it.
As for the show's failure if he is in it, I don't see how anyone would be able to prove it. I didn't plan on seeing it before, so I certainly don't have any plans on seeing it now, with or without Barbour. And I think some of you overestimate how many schools require this as reading. It's usually only on recommended reading lists.
#200
Posted: 4/2/08 at 12:03pm
"Considering less than 100 years ago it was acceptable for a man his age to marry a girl her age I guess that depends on ones own moral compass."
As long as they were both white or both black. Thank God for some progress in the laws.
As long as they were both white or both black. Thank God for some progress in the laws.
PEACE.
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