Is James Barbour ever going to be back on Broadway- Page 8
Is James Barbour ever going to be back on Broadway
#175james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 8:44pm
he plead guilty to endangering the welfare of a minor by engaging in sexual acts with her, but since he's not required to register as a sex offender the fact that his offense was sexual has no bearing on this discussion.
nor does the fact that it is well-known that he can't get it up with girls over 18.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
winston89
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/18/06
#176james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 8:51pm
jacobtsf, Thank you. That is what I have been trying to say.
And, Papa is right he isn't required to register as a sex offender.
If what I read was correct, he only got hit with the endangering the welfare of a minor because there wasn't enough evidence to say if he had sex with her or not
#177james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:02pmsince oral sex is not really sex.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
CurtainPullDowner
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/4/04
#178james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:25pm
I could be wrong but I believe he "copped" a plea to reduce his sentencing and not be listed as a sex offender, and not because there wasn't enough evidence,
He admited that he had sex with her and he knew her age.
Any group that wants to raise the attention to their cause will go after this show for sure, if he is in the cast.
#179james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:31pm
"I could be wrong but I believe he "copped" a plea to reduce his sentencing and not be listed as a sex offender, and not because there wasn't enough evidence"
I heard that as well.
"Any group that wants to raise the attention to their cause will go after this show for sure, if he is in the cast."
Exactly, this is such a polarizing issues with strong feelings on both sides of the debate. Whether your cause is going after men who did what Barbour did, the "corruptness" of the registry, or a million other causes that can roll out of this issue his being in the spotlight will enable you to bring attention to your cause.
winston89
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/18/06
#180james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:35pmI wonder if this could impact the show even if he isn't cast. There could be people who are so against the entire thing that they would boycott or protest the show because the producers associated themselves with Barbour in the first place.
#181james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:37pmand you're a teacher? christ i fear for the future of our country.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#182james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:38pmOkay, now I AM going to call you stupid after that comment.
#183james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:41pmwelcome to the dark side, eris. we have gummi bears.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#184james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:42pm
"welcome to the dark side, eris. we have gummi bears."
Fun. Do you have Reese's Pieces too?
#185james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:44pmyes, but if you eat them drew barrymore's pet alien will follow you home and pass out in your bathtub.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#186james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:46pm
"yes, but if you eat them drew barrymore's pet alien will follow you home and pass out in your bathtub."
That might not be such a good idea. My younger cat will kill him.
winston89
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/18/06
#187james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:46pmYour right that was a stupid comment of me to say.
#188james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:48pmgrammar. it ain't just kelsey's last friggin' name.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
Yankeefan007
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/20/04
#189james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 9:52pmWhy do I feel there's gonna be a "Jeffrey Dahmer at PB&J sandwiches" reference coming up soon?
#190james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/1/08 at 10:19pm
My God...some people are just DOOMED.
I give up.
#191james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/2/08 at 12:34am
"grammar. it ain't just kelsey's last friggin' name."
You're right. His last name is Grammer.
Also: capitalization.
I'm trying to follow this thread because I'm interested in the arguments, but it's just painful to read.
Everything in life is only for now. ~ Avenue Q
There is no future, there is no past. I live this moment as my last. ~ Rent
SueleenGay
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/9/03
#192james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/2/08 at 2:56am
Will Barbour appear in Two Cities?
No.
Will the producers “stand by their man”?
Not in a million years.
Will they fire him?
Yep, better believe it.
Will the public ever know this?
Nope.
Here is the story:
James Barbour, the troubled convicted sex offender/sort of Broadway star, who spent two months in jail for having sex with an under aged girl, has decided to end his professional association with the multi-million dollar extravaganza, “A Tale of Two Cities” to concentrate on his personal life and rebuild his spirit. “The producers BEGGED me to stay with the show,” Barbour claimed. “They said I could not be replaced. I told them, ‘Nonsense, there are a dozen actors out there who can do it justice. Give one of them a chance.'” The actor continued, “I have made some terrible mistakes and need to deal with personal demons which will only be for the better for ALL involved with the show. I SHALL return to Broadway when the time is right and I am at peace with myself.”
Everybody wins.
The producers lose the liability of a sex offender scaring off ticket buyers while still appearing loyal to a troubled man with whom they consider family.
Barbour wins by appearring contrite and by saving face from being "fired", and in a couple of years will make a fine comeback.
The show goes on, keeping hundreds of people employed and thousands of fans entertained. EVERYBODY WINS!
Except the victim.
#193james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/2/08 at 3:06am
I've said before that Barbour ought to back out on his own. It'd be the classy thing to do.
Sueleen, I wish you were quoting from a real article.
SueleenGay
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/9/03
#194james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/2/08 at 3:10am
No, the real article should read:
"Producers come to senses, fire convicted sex offender.
Victim still the biggest loser."
iflitifloat
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/10/03
#195james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/2/08 at 7:05am
Back to the school trip aspect, which accounts for lots of group sales. A few years ago, I chaperoned a high school chorus from northern NJ to Cleveland. One of the highlights of the trip was catching a performance of Rent's touring company. A bunch of the kids had seen it in NYC, of course; some multiple times. I can tell you that a couple of the chaperones flipped out that these young impressionable minds were being subjected to such content. (Ironically, the most vocal woman was the mom of a girl who had a rep as one of the "fastest" girls in school.)
Don't, for a second, discount the PTA rage factor in mid-America (which starts at the Hudson River...)
winston89
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/18/06
#196james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/2/08 at 8:41amTrue true. There are also a lot of school groups who visit NYC from elsewhere in the country. This could add to the potential complaints.
#197james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/2/08 at 10:28amno. ya think?
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#198james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/2/08 at 11:56am
He is not a sex offender in the eyes of the law. Some of you need to stop labelling him as such. He was convicted of endangering the welfare of a child. There are no qualifiers for that designation (i.e., the nature of the offense isn't part of the conviction title, so without further inquiry you wouldn't know what the offense was), which is why he is required to disclose that information to potential employers. Morally, is he a sex offender? Maybe. Considering less than 100 years ago it was acceptable for a man his age to marry a girl her age I guess that depends on ones own moral compass. In todays standards, he certainly is. But since the law doesn't consider him a sex offender than no one here should, because it can bring about a lot of problems, and libelous statements could cause the site itself legal problems (since it is moderated).
That said, personally I don't think it will cause the uproar many are predicting should he stay with the show. As I said earlier, if the parents or the girl don't make a big fuss, then I don't see anyone else doing so. History shows that the organizers of such demonstrations are usually affiliated with the victim in some manner. The examples with Corpus Christi aren't entirely relevant, since religious lunatics are more ferocious with protesting. Had he forced her to have oral sex while chanting the Devil is God, then maybe we'd see something. If he were a bigger star with more media coverage we would probably see something. But I doubt we'll see much of anything. I guess it really depends on how the press covers it.
As for the show's failure if he is in it, I don't see how anyone would be able to prove it. I didn't plan on seeing it before, so I certainly don't have any plans on seeing it now, with or without Barbour. And I think some of you overestimate how many schools require this as reading. It's usually only on recommended reading lists.
SueleenGay
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/9/03
#199james barbour: in his own words
Posted: 4/2/08 at 12:03pm
"Considering less than 100 years ago it was acceptable for a man his age to marry a girl her age I guess that depends on ones own moral compass."
As long as they were both white or both black. Thank God for some progress in the laws.
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