Is it time for a mass exodus from Broadway World?

Hopefully BWW will now be losing a big bunch of crybabies.

The fact is there are no other options; All That Chat makes BWW look like a vision from the future and other places are defunct.

Creating and maintaining a message board is time consuming, and if it is unattached to a main site that can act as a resource, there is little way to attract new traffic.

The people that want to talk theatre shop can mostly all do so offline with peers. Diehard fans have places like Tumblr.

JSquared2 said: "Hopefully BWW will now be losing a big bunch of crybabies."

Is this a personal targeted attack that should be deleted or is this a post that furthers open and free discussion?

Personally, I feel this site could use some house cleaning of the same posters that all they do is attack and complain. There are people that use the anonymous nature if the internet to be a bully under the cloak of free speech.

ScottyDoesn'tKnow2 said: "JSquared2 said: "Hopefully BWW will now be losing a big bunch of crybabies."

Is this a personal targeted attack that should be deleted or is this a post that furthers open and free discussion?"

Scotty, probably neither, as JSquared wasn't "attacking" anyone personally, but was clearly insulting posters. However, I also don't think that it advances the conversation. Obviously this thread isn't something that we love having on the board, especially since we are making sincere efforts to make this a better experience for everyone, but if the discussion is going to be had, it needs to be done without insults.

So, from here on out in this thread, since the subject has already been broached, if there are insults or attacks made (of the personal or general variety), they will be addressed.

Just checked in to see what fire started today and...

I know musical tastes are personal, intimate and by choice, as is a discussion of race and casting. It's just a little puzzling to me how IMO, some contributions on this topic are subject to censorship. Adult themes and content are and have been part of our nation's fabric. Sometimes disturbing, yes. Some posts are constantly being called out and deleted. Others, many times, just "love" a good cyber battle, posting every five minutes back and forth.

If you need or want to see how race in America is not only treated but mis-treated in America (and Broadway and...), just look at our tv shows that reach mass audiences. There is a post in the off-topic thread on Donald Glover and "This Is America". It has not had a post for over two days, yet if you read the NYT, (not to mention going online), there are articles and links to at least 10 publications, the video and the topic of race in our country.

So there's my 2 cents...continue your bickering...

Updated On: 5/10/18 at 05:07 PM

rjm516 said: "The racism stuff is despicable. You cannot in good faith delete comments from people calling OUT racism but leave the racist comments there with seemingly no opposition. So immature to have staff's personal feelings reflected in their censorship."

rjm, I can't tell you with 100% certainty that personal feelings played zero part in what you are calling censorship, as what was edited/deleted occurred on both sides of that discussion, and Alan made very clear what BWW's stance is when the thread was eventually locked.

I just posted this in another thread, but felt that it explains (to a certain extent) the question you raise:

"Believe it or not, I 100% agree with you, and I think you have perfectly articulated the line between what we think is acceptable, and what maybe isn't. If you had worded the post in question like you did above, it would not have been an issue for us at all (even though, I again think we probably could have let it slide the first time). While it seems semantic to some, there is a difference for us in "attacking" (and of course I'm using that term loosely) a person's work, and "attacking" that person.

The same is true in the other thread, where we edited or deleted people calling each other racist. While that is obviously a level or 12 up from calling someone an idiot, there is a big difference between saying someone is racist, and saying that something someone says/believes is racist.

I get that this seems like we are splitting hairs here on this, but I truly believe that if you call someone a racist (for example), that ends the discussion whether you want it to or not, because it makes someone automatically defensive.

However, if you say that you believe that what the other person thinks is racist (and then hopefully explain why), that leaves the other person the opportunity to step back and disassociate with what was said, so that the dialogue can continue in a hopefully positive manner."

So, in neither case were we trying to "censor" anyone's thoughts about "Carousel" or from calling out opinions that they felt were racist. We just want to keep all threads on a plane where we are discussing the topics, and not insulting others. I hope that makes sense.