Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for "Annie" Movie- Page 5
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for "Annie" Movie
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #100
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:03pm
"They were meant to open people's eyes."
Well, mission accomplished, because when I read those "jokes" my eyes nearly popped from my head.
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #101
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:07pmIf Annie's story were about race the way Dreamgirls was, the comparison to an all-white Dreamgirls might be apt. But it's not.
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #102
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:12pm
Anyway, I'm going to show my kids the mixed version of Annie, with Audra McDonald. It's beautiful and perfect. I'd rather teach them about mixed love stories than about the necessity of separation.
Updated On: 5/1/13 at 02:12 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #103
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:15pm
Dave, what are your thoughts on a Black Barbie doll, which was first seen several years after Barbies hit stores?
Is this another example of the Black community needing "their own"?
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #104
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:15pmBy "mixed," you mean the version with one black cast member?
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #105
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:19pm
Wynbish, I think that's wonderful! Long live variety.
I do not approve of parents who tell their kids they can only have a strictly "black doll collection" of course.
Would "joking" about those parents be racist?
Updated On: 5/1/13 at 02:19 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #106
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:22pmSo, it's okay to have Black Barbie counterparts, even with Barbie being an icon mostly seen as White (well, very tanned white), but to make the iconic character of Annie black and the major characters as well, that takes it too far? I don't see the difference, personally
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #108
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:24pmNo Reginald, I mean the main romantic love story of the film being mixed race. I think that's wonderful. I think some of the kids were black too (and other races).
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #110
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:27pm
"So, it's okay to have Black Barbie counterparts"
It's not only ok, it's wonderful.
Insisting on having "no white counterparts" or "only black" is a different story. What part of that do you not get?
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #111
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:28pmWhy did he black community insist on having their own Barbie dolls?
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #112
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:28pm
At this point, I'm not super clear on how this movie stands in relation to the musical. Jay-Z is working on the score- does that not imply that they are jettisoning or highly modifying it? They're renaming Warbucks, does that not imply they are drastically reshaping the material?
And if we're going to be so defensive of the sanctity of the source material- don't forget that the Annie musical is a pretty big about-face from the original comic strip, which was not shy in its conservatism. Harold Gray even briefly killed off Daddy Warbucks following the New Deal, citing a belief that Warbucks couldn't exist in a world in which the New Deal was enacted. Harold Gray also was pro-child labor- a "hard-knock life" was probably not a bad thing in his eyes.
God knows what he'd think if he knew they were making an all-black equivalent!
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #113
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:30pm
Insisting on having "no white counterparts" or "only black" is a different story. What part of that do you not get?
When a new Annie movie is concerned, all of it. It's not like this movie wipes out every incarnation where the cast is white only or where the cast is mixed. It's just doing a new spin on a fictional character in a fictional story. They're not trying to make Anne Frank black.
Updated On: 5/1/13 at 02:30 PM
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #115
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:32pm
But who are these people insisting on "no white counterparts"? If this new "Annie" were to cast a white Grace, would that be okay?
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #116
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:34pmIn fact, we really don't seem to know a whole lot about this movie at all, other than it's not the "traditional" (ie: lily white) Annie.
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #117
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:35pm..I mean, the original draft was written by Emma Thompson. Hardly a black icon here.
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #118
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:37pm
Our society is rooted on stereotypes, every time you're talking about a race be it white, or black or any other, jokes will surface. Whether or not is right to do it is one thing, but...
Everyone's a little bit racist
Okay!
Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
But you laugh because
They're based on truth.
Don't take them as
Personal attacks.
Everyone enjoys them -
So relax!
The real problem arrives when you try to turn a light and humorous discussion into a serious social statement, which is not, IMO. Like I said before, I'm very excited for this film and I'm happy they're updating it since we already have two more film adaptations of the same beloved musical.
Honestly, the only post here which I found to be demeaning and terribly racist was KKKatie's.
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #120
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:39pm
Reginals, that would at least teach people better life lessons. But something tells me that the producers of this film will not do that. That their interest of having an all black cast is bigger than anything else. But who knows, I might be surprised.
Updated On: 5/1/13 at 02:39 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/2/07
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #121
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:40pm
"Should we celebrate the white culture and make an all white movie version of Dreamgirls with Kelly Clarkson, Christina Aguilera and Pink?"
Um, considering how INCREDIBLE that cast is, yes.
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #123
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:41pmWhen you Google "Shasquirta", the only result is this thread.
Jamie Foxx in Negotiations for #124
Posted: 5/1/13 at 2:43pm
Leaving "Annie" aside for a moment, do you get equally worked up when faced with all-white casts in film and onstage?
You mentioned "Les Miserables" (and your fear that some studio would attempt an all-black version). Did you think that all-white cast sent some sort of message?
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