Posted: 7/28/17 at 2:57pm
Margo. Get a life.
People who get their friend to start a twitter war against the show they're in shouldn't get to keep their jobs.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 2:59pm
You should get a life instead of making up scenarios in your head. Once again, absolutely no proof that Oak got his friends to do anything.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:02pm
^Check out Casal's twitter page and it's quite obvious.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:04pm
People who get their friend to start a twitter war against the show they're in shouldn't get to keep their jobs.
Well, you just assumed he personally instructed people to do this. Should all people lose their jobs based on assumptions?
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:06pm
GeorgeandDot said: "^Check out Casal's twitter page and it's quite obvious."
So why haven't we seen tweets from his Hamilton castmates? Surely if Oak has such a power and desire to get his friends to do things we would have seen tweets from Daveed, Jasmine etc.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:08pm
Because George and Dot is a delusional, old, sad, pathetic loser who wants people's careers to end. Of perhaps just an African American man and his many of his friends, who happen to be POC. Hm..
Fu*king racist.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:09pm
^Well Casal is a privileged white guy who saw an opportunity to leach off of his black friend. Daveed doesn't need to do that.
Comet should be telling Oak that his friend needs to knock it off before people show up with torches and pitch forks outside of the Imperial.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:11pm
Margo319 said: "Because George and Dot is a delusional, old, sad, pathetic loser who wants people's careers to end. Of perhaps just an African American man and his many of his friends, who happen to be POC. Hm..
Fu*king racist.
I'm sorry. What have I said that's racist??? I'm a blasian woman myself and my opinion has nothing to do with the race of any of these people.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:11pm
So you admit that Casal saw the opportunity, not that Oak got him to do anything.
Torches and pitch forks? #BoycottHamilton made international news and the worst that happened was 5 protesters with a sign.
Updated On: 7/28/17 at 03:11 PM
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:12pm
^So it's fine to play the race card when it supports your agenda huh?
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:13pm
It's clear that Oak encouraged Casal in some way. He's putting his entire cast's jobs at risk because of this terrible press.
Updated On: 7/28/17 at 03:13 PM
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:15pm
mullein, I didn't even play the race card. I'm simply clarifying that I'm not some white Trump supporter like Margo claims.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:16pm
It really isn't clear at all. You're delusional, you're almost as bad as the Marc Platt guy honestly.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:17pm
I've seen this kind of thing many times before. The actor isn't allowed to say anything so he talks trash about the show to his friend who then goes public about it to support his own personal agenda.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:22pm
Just because you've seen it before doesn't mean it was the case this time. Wishing someone's career to end because of assumptions with no evidence is heartless. Luckily, you have no say in the matter as you're retired and no longer work in the business. Can't wait to see Oak's career grow and prosper and I hope you seethe about it as much as possible.
That's the last thing I'm posting in this thread.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:23pm
"It really isn't clear at all. You're delusional, you're almost as bad as the Marc Platt guy honestly."
OH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.
Always calls racists out. ALWAYS. This poster wants a Broadway actor, a man of color, to NEVER work again? Broadway has so few black men on Broadway as it stands. Especially in leading roles. You want to ruin one's career over.....ticket sales? Yeah. You are a racist. And you can still be racist even when you are, in fact, a POC.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:28pm
Margo319 said: "Especially in leading roles. You want to ruin one's career over.....ticket sales? Yeah. You are a racist. And you can still be racist even when you are, in fact, a POC."
Maybe GeorgeandDot meant to identify as a POS and misspelled it?
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:29pm
An update from Dave Malloy via Twitter:
https://twitter.com/dave_malloy/status/891014648962715648
as he tells it, the show was in dire financial straits after Ingrid Michaelson's scheduled departure and the producers asked Mandy to come in ASAP to save the show from closing. He acknowledges the racial optics but apologizes and insists it was not the intention at all.
Updated On: 7/28/17 at 03:29 PM
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:33pm
"Maybe GeorgeandDot meant to identify as a POS and misspelled it?"
Oh my God, I love you.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:33pm
Aaaand there it is, directly from Malloy himself. Advance sales obviously showed that Great Comet would've had to close after August 13 (Ingrid's departure date). They had to make a move, and fast.
This was purely financial, purely a smart economic decision in a commercial industry.
Anybody who tries to read more deeply into it beyond that is the definition of making a mountain out of a molehill.
Updated On: 7/28/17 at 03:33 PM
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:33pm
thealtoslament said: "An update from Dave Malloy via Twitter:
https://twitter.com/dave_malloy/status/891014648962715648"
Yikes, sounds like January is optimistic. Interesting that Ingrid shored things up as much as she did (my visiting family wanted to see Comet for her, I have no idea who she is, even still... heh)
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:34pm
It seems to me, as is usually the case on Broadway, the Producers saw more money in their future. I don't think it would have mattered if Oak was green, the Producers got an OK from a Tony Award winning actor, who has been on a highly successful TV show for several seasons, that spells more money at the BO, in most cases. African-American, Asian, Indian or green martian, the Producers saw a way of making more money-to keep the show open, a show which is already consistently on TDF and TKTS.
I don't get that this was a racist turn at all. Now why the Producers didn't get a "name" when Groban left in the first place is a wonder.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:37pm
Wow, I applaud Dave for just laying out the truth like that. I met him at the show and he seems like a great guy. I feel bad for everyone involved, especially the entire cast/crew/orchestra and theater staff who may soon be out of job.
Last night, out of curiosity I looked at Telecharge for the week of performances beginning on Sept. 12th to see just how dire their advance could be. It really is that bad, the show is 40% sold if that. Basically the mezz and rear mezz, plus most on stage seating is completely available for all performances. Orchestra is about 1/2 sold if I'm generous.
I honestly had no idea GC was in the same situation as GHD and Bandstand. Labor Day weekend could be quite the bloodbath.
As Dave said, that's the real issue here. Whether it's Oak or Mandy until Sept 3rd doesn't matter if that's what their advance is afterwards. Mandy is just a bandaid.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:37pm
Exactly, EthelMae. To borrow a term from Malloy, "racial optics" are—in my opinion, rightly—inconsequential in making such a decision if the alternative looks to be commercially viable or financially fruitful.
This is how the industry works. Plain and simple.
Posted: 7/28/17 at 3:37pm
EDIT: Nevermind. I'd rather just stay out of this.
Updated On: 7/28/17 at 03:37 PM
