Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Notreallysilent 2
Broadway Star Joined: 12/12/15
#1Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 11:52am
With the new production of Charlie and the chocolate factory coming to broadway sometime in the next year or two. do you guys think it'll replace Matilda?
TheGingerBreadMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/7/12
#2Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 11:56am
I don't see why it would. There can be more than one children's/family show on Broadway at the same time. The fact that they are both based on books written by the same author doesn't mean anything, IMHO.
#3Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 11:58am
No. If anything when/if Charlie comes it'll be at the Lyric
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rob136
Understudy Joined: 10/5/14
#4Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 3:28pm
Somethings got to give and I think it will be Matilda. With Matilda, Finding Neverland, School of Rock, all the Disney stuff, and now Charlie, it seems the "family" market is getting saturated. The other possibility to go is Neverland, but I think the producer is stubborn enough to hang on through a dip in sales.
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dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#5Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 3:52pm
And why shouldnt he "hang on"? The only thing any producer dares about is there own success. As long as they are.paying their bills, they'll stay open.
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Mirawa
Swing Joined: 12/1/15
#6Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 4:13pm
Philly, I wonder why anyone would produce Charlie. It has the worst music ever
rob136
Understudy Joined: 10/5/14
#7Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 5:32pm
Because Neverland has dipping numbers and awful reviews. If more appealing, better reviewed, and fresher musicals occupy their target audience, it's time to pull the plug before they lose money. Neverland is about to be without Morrison as well. The show has lost its star power.
BROADWAY: The Cripple of Inishmaan, This is Our Youth, If/Then, Hedwig and the Angry Inch (x3), Cabaret (x2), The Real Thing, A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder, Chicago, Les Miserables (x2) Disgraced, Finding Neverland, On the Twentieth Century, Wolf Hall Part I, On the Town, Fun Home; TOURING: Jekyll and Hyde, The Book of Mormon; LOCAL: The Twilight Zone, Anne Boleyn, Death and the Maiden, The Lying Kind, Chorus Line, Stupid F**king Bird
KathyNYC2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/2/10
#8Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 5:52pm
..unless they bring another star in. Haven't heard anything personally.
That said, Finding Neverland is not a kids' show like the other ones mentioned IMO.
TheGingerBreadMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/7/12
#9Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 6:13pm
Finding Neverland isn't a kids show? It's specifically marketed towards families.
Some moments may be seen as dark-ish, but it's certainly not a dark or mature show.
bfreak
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/6/11
#10Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 6:22pm
BTW, I'm sure Weinstein will probably put in a name for Morrison, does anyone think Kelsey Grammer will sell any tickets for his return if a theatre actor ends up playing Barrie? He used to be a pretty big name but I'm not sure if he will really bring in much extra cash.
Looking forward to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. And you know, if Matilda slows down a bit, the Shubert in theory may be a good place to put a show of that size.
itis2l84u
Stand-by Joined: 10/16/15
#11Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 6:34pm
I think Matilda will continue to hang on. Though I'll admit there seems to be an abundance of family shows at the moment. I'm not sure how well Charile will do though. It is a spectacle but the book and music are poor and it is rather slow. Also Americans will be expecting it to be a lot like the recent movie which it isn't. They will also be expecting a lot of that music to be in the show which again it isn't.
I do think a family show will have to go and I think that'll be Finding Neverland. School of Rock has too much hype for it to be going anywhere too soon, Disney shows usually run a while, and Matilda is doing fairly well.
rob136
Understudy Joined: 10/5/14
#12Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 7:42pm
Grammar brings in the parents and grandparents for sure. My aunt wanted to go because of Grammar.
BROADWAY: The Cripple of Inishmaan, This is Our Youth, If/Then, Hedwig and the Angry Inch (x3), Cabaret (x2), The Real Thing, A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder, Chicago, Les Miserables (x2) Disgraced, Finding Neverland, On the Twentieth Century, Wolf Hall Part I, On the Town, Fun Home; TOURING: Jekyll and Hyde, The Book of Mormon; LOCAL: The Twilight Zone, Anne Boleyn, Death and the Maiden, The Lying Kind, Chorus Line, Stupid F**king Bird
KathyNYC2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/2/10
#13Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 9:02pm
TheGingerBreadMan said: "Finding Neverland isn't a kids show? It's specifically marketed towards families.
Some moments may be seen as dark-ish, but it's certainly not a dark or mature show.
I don't care who they market it to...it's not a kids show. Charlie, Matilda, Aladdin...were all based on books written for children... with later films that were made for children/families...and Aladdin - was a Disney cartoon. (School of Rock could arguably be properly marketed to both kids and adults...)
Finding Neverland is based on a serious adult movie - which is based on the real life of a serious grim situation (which in real life the history of it was even grimmer). Yes it's about Peter Pan and the producers are not going to dissuade families from bringing children, I am sure they encourage it.
But it's not a kids show in the same way the others are AT ALL.
TheGingerBreadMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/7/12
#14Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 9:15pm
The source material doesn't define whether or not it's a kids show. Wicked is based on a very sexual, adult themed novel, though is arguably the epitome of family entertainment on Broadway.
If it wasn't a kids show, it wouldn't be marketed towards kids and families. Heck, just the other day they hosted a special program at the theatre specifically for 3,000 New York Public School students.
Updated On: 12/12/15 at 09:15 PM
bfreak
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/6/11
#15Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 10:01pm
rob136 said: "Grammar brings in the parents and grandparents for sure. My aunt wanted to go because of Grammar.
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That's cool. I was just curious what other people's thoughts were because personally I'm a big fan of Grammer's and have held out on seeing the show specifically waiting for his return. I will be there late January/early February or so. And believe it or not, I'm actually a teenager so it's funny how usually Kelsey attracts an older audience and how I'm sacrificing seeing Morrison (I can't make it that week where both are in it) just to see Grammer. I didn't think that that many people would go just to see him, but more of him being in it as an added bonus.
#16Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 10:06pm
Time magazine just added Finding Neverland as one of the ten best Broadway shows of the year, along with Wolf Hall and The Visit
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Every full moon he sacrifices 4 puppies to the Dark Lord and smears their blood on his paino.
This should help you understand the score for Wicked a little bit more.
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#17Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 10:45pm
So, Time magazine also had hitler as their person of the year. Time is all to great.
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KathyNYC2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/2/10
#18Matilda and Charlie and the chocolate factory
Posted: 12/12/15 at 11:14pm
TheGingerBreadMan said: "The source material doesn't define whether or not it's a kids show. Wicked is based on a very sexual, adult themed novel, though is arguably the epitome of family entertainment on Broadway.
If it wasn't a kids show, it wouldn't be marketed towards kids and families. Heck, just the other day they hosted a special program at the theatre specifically for 3,000 New York Public School students.
"They did the same thing a few weeks ago at a Kinky Boots Wednesday matinee..all school groups. I hear it was a big hit and the audience was extremely responsive = but there is no way that Kinky Boots is a kids show because the producers arranged an all kid audience.. (Just to be clear, I personally would take a kid of any age to see Kinky Boots).
Updated On: 12/12/15 at 11:14 PM
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