Mrs. Doubtfire is gonna get protested — Page 5

John Adams said: "You've confused "disguised" with "transgendered". And FTR, neither should Robin Williams' character be confused as being "in drag".

joevitus is one who acknowledged the difference when he wrote, "Further, whileI guess if a man really snuck into his children'shome in disguise to live under another identity, it would be all kinds of intrusive/abusive/disturbing,this isn't life, it's comedy." It's a pedantic point (on my part), but Williams' character didn't sneak into the children's home, though. The intention ofjoevitus' larger point is more valuable.

I find it very disappointing and saddening that you would create and defendthis negatively framed thread based on that lack of understanding. I don't wish you to add insult to injury by asking for any clarification, but the phrase, "actual necessary issue" has little meaning, if any.

RE: "are you a cis person defending itwhen you're not on the receiving end of transphobia": You haven't clarified what the pronoun 'it'references (the entire movie? Some specific action, or idea contained within the plot?), so your context is lost. As for "transphobia", there is/are no example(s) I can find in the movie. This isn't a move that's about, or references any members of the transgendered community. Because that's true, it makes absolutely no difference whether/not I have been on the "receiving end of transphobia". It also makes no differencewhether/not I am cis-gendered.

It's my opinion that you're bandwagoning (jumping on the "I support the transgendered community" train) without having sufficient knowledge of the community's issues, or who they really are."



if you were talking to me at any point there…my point isn’t stupid or anything. It was a genuine question that people are saying “aw it’s a heartwarming story about a man who wants to get his family back”-yes, but lying and disguised as a woman. Lying to them. There’s a whole section in the movie when they’re trying to decide what his disguise should be that I’m thinking would not go over well if the movie were made today? Maybe: I don’t know. I’m just saying I don’t get why people are so okay with the lying and scheming.

hearthemsing22 said: "So everyone is okay with the fact that the character dressed as woman to lie and deceive his family? I’m confused."

I mean now you're either clearly trolling or can't separate a fictional movie/musical comedy from reality.

thedrybandit said: "hearthemsing22 said: "So everyone is okay with the fact that the character dressed as woman to lie and deceive his family? I’m confused."

I mean now you're either clearly trolling or can't separate a fictional movie/musical comedy from reality."

I mean if that’s how your cold heart wants to interpret it. Then sure.

hearthemsing22 said: "So everyone is okay with the fact that the character dressed as woman to lie and deceive his family? I’m confused."

Yup. 100%. You don't seem to understand what a musical comedy is. Or even what a funny movie is. But that's okay, you don't have to see it. Problem solved.

Broadway61004 said: "Does this mean that I support cannibalism because I enjoy Sweeney Todd? Or that I support organized crime because I enjoyed The Godfather? Or that I think Dick Cheney is a tremendous person because I liked the film Vice?

No one here is saying lying and scheming is okay. We're saying that just because a musical depicts it happening doesn't mean that the musical is saying it's okay."

All of this is correct, of course. What's lost in all this nonsense we have trudged through is that not every portrayal in every musical (or other show, book, film, etc) is ok. Some are exploitive, some are abusive, and so on. Those are all proper subjects for intelligent discussion. The criticism of the OP in this thread is that there was no foundation for anything stated, and thus no basis for such a discussion. So many logical fallacies in the OP's post (and some others) that it makes the mind spin.

I should rename this thread

"Come post your defensive straw man argument"

It's getting almost campy haha

SouthernCakes said: "thedrybandit said: "hearthemsing22 said: "So everyone is okay with the fact that the character dressed as woman to lie and deceive his family? I’m confused."

I mean now you're either clearly trolling or can't separate a fictional movie/musical comedy from reality."

I mean if that’s how your cold heart wants to interpret it. Then sure."

LOL my cold heart-good one. That’s funny! My heart is a lot warmer than the trolls on here who use a screen as an excuse to be mean to people.

hearthemsing22 said: "So everyone is okay with the fact that the character dressed as woman to lie and deceive his family? I’m confused."

I am. Yes. Its a story, and I am an adult.

hearthemsing22 said: "Really. Good! So am I. And as such I’m able to move on and disagree with people respectfully. So glad everyone else here is also able to do that since they’re also adults, I’m guessing? Good!"

Now work on moving on beyond irrelevant posts borne of your having stubbed you toe in another thread by making comments with which others disagreed or that they corrected. People are not expected to remain silent when they read something that's wrong. That's not respect. Respect is honoring truth.