NBC's SMASH, Season 2 -- Discussion — Page 81

"Perhaps season three will focus on the Gatsby play, with no music. Ivy vs. Karen for Daisy and Leo as Jay."

No, Leo as Meyer Wolfsheim.

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Updated On: 4/24/13 at 02:41 PM

Jesus F*CK, I'd love to have one plot point of this entire season not spoiled on here.

yankeefan- I didn't have the ending completely spoiled, but from what I know I think people will like it. The biggest reason is probably because the writers knew the end was coming (or at least planned for the strong possibility that this was the series finale), and decided to wrap stuff up.

It sounds like both Ivy/Bombshell fans and Karen/Hit List fans will be happy with the Tony results.

Hilty has a knockout number in 2nd to last episode (now I guess part 1 of the finale).

I'm surprised by this announcement of a 2 hr finale though. Those were two separate episodes...the nominations and the awards. They are just burning them off on the THIRD night of week Smash has aired this season.

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@ TFMH18, urgh really, you couldve warned us with a #SPOILERS BELOW# befor posting about Ivy. I been avoiding that article all day...... please no more spoilers, I just want to watch the episode when it airs and enjoy it :)

Updated On: 4/24/13 at 03:53 PM

BTW....Smash's Official FB page listing the date/time change uses the phrase: SERIES Finale.

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Come on along and listen to
the lullaby of Broadway
The hip hooray and ballyhoo
the lullaby of Broadway

And in the center of it all
is The Hotel Carter

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Cool! Hope we get a full version of Megan singing that. I wonder, though, if the kids "see" Bombshell after that master class... and if Ivy takes her clothes off...

It's in, but now the Shadow Marilyns sing it. The Shadow Marilyns get their own arc in season 3.

Look guys…I wanted to love this show. I LOVED the pilot…but it never lived up to it. There were glimmers of hope–mostly Megan Hilty’s amazing performances (Let’s Be Bad, Never Met a Wolf Who Didn’t Love to Howl, Moving the Line). But let’s face facts. Not enough people are watching it.

For all the people who saying it wasn’t promoted enough… ARE YOU KIDDING??! I remember seeing ads for it back in October. TVLINE and other outlets were constantly announcing when guests starts and new actors were being added since Season 1 ended (that’s free advertising people!). It was promoted all over it’s genre based demographics main websites (ie Broadwayworld.com, Broadway.com) and broader entertainment sites as well. It had huge billboards all over LA and NY/Times Sq. The only problem I see is in the way it was aired. Showing the first half of season opener on Hulu and iTunes….in this day and age…does nothing to help the show. I remember about maybe 6 years ago a lot of cable shows would get leaked online through off the radar channels (ie bit torrent, peer2peer downloading). That was almost grass roots promotion. But now that everyone has access to Hulu and such…why would they tune in on TV if they can see it online? (With much fewer commercials). And NBC should have either aired it in the Fall where viewers hoped it would be or waited to pair it with The Voice in the Spring.

The horrible writing didn’t help either. Jimmy’s character was horribly written. I don’t blame Jeremy Jordan one bit. I think he has a natural screen presence and likability…but not with this character. If they would have written the character a little more gritty…rather than glossy gritty… I think he would have been more compelling. He turned out so whiny and bi-polar. Kat McPhee has never been known for her acting skills…just her voice. But come on, pitting her against Hilty, who has more Marilyn in left pinkie than McPhee has in her whole body, was NEVER believable. The problem from the start was that the show moved WAY too fast. The girls were basically vying for the part in the first episode…where only what 3 songs were written for the show with NO BOOK… Don’t you usually wait til you have some basic structure for a show before you cast the role?

As for any other channel picking this show up… Why would they dump money into a show that has already lost money and viewership? Very few shows have EVER made a channel leap. The few that I can think of–Scrubs, Medium, The Hogan Family–switched networks and didn’t last long after that….the thing about those shows, they started out as hits and had broader appeal than Smash. The shows that have made leap and have been successful have moved to channels where they have a built in demographic. (Ex: The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd moved from ABC to Lifetime and ran for 3 more years) Or they have moved to synication…where no doubt they have taken a budget cut….something that Smash couldn’t afford. (It would slim the cast–most of the main actors–ie Messing & Houston–would take a pay cut or leave the show. Also the production values would go down.)

All in all….we have seen the last of Smash, at least as a TV show anyway. I think the only way we will see it again is if Bombshell makes it to Broadway. And it better be with Ms. Hilty.

Thanks for summing it all up Crushgroove.

I think it's strong enough that they are going to put it as the lead in for all of the shows, even the ones on other networks.

Crushgrove - Honestly, I don't remember people really complaining about it not being promoted. Fans of the show have complained about NBC scheduling of the show. Really, what genius at NBC thinks it was a good idea to let people watch the 2 episode premier online before it airs on TV.

I never expected this show to be a hit, it does not have broad appeal. It is not like "Glee" and have most of the music being hit songs by artists that are very popular. Most songs were original and what "Broadway" type of song have you seen become a hit in the recent past. Yes, the show has faults and what show does not have some. Was the show totally realistic, not always but have you ever watched medical shows with a nurse and or doctor. They will laugh hysterically at the inaccuracies.

I found the show faults and all to be entertaining. Hilty is a major talent and lights up the TV screen. I am not a McPhee basher, I think she is a decent pop singer and pretty nice looking. Once SMASH started concentrating more on the two shows heading to Broadway, I think the quality got so much better. Obviously, it was too late to save the show but I believe if it was given a chance it might really get even better.

Updated On: 4/25/13 at 04:55 PM