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#1

Omicron Variant Concerns

Now that the Omicron Variant of COVID-19 has been detected in NYC, do we fear another shutdown of Broadway could be imminent?


The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
#3

Omicron Variant Concerns

It’s going to take scientists several weeks to determine if the vaccines work against it and how dangerous it is compared to the other variant. If Broadway shuts down, it will probably be along with everything else shutting down and because the vaccines don’t combat it. Hopefully that won’t be the case.

#5

Omicron Variant Concerns

God, I hope not! I did hear though that the omicron cases were fully vaccinated individuals, but had very mild symptoms and are expected to recover.


The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
#6

Omicron Variant Concerns

Nope. The known cases of this variant are causing a very mild illness. Obviously any variant is of concern but a lot of people are overreacting already.


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#7

Omicron Variant Concerns

adotburr said: "Nope. The known cases of this variant are causing a very mild illness. Obviously any variant is of concern but a lot of people are overreacting already."

While it's true that it appears that the variant isn't any more dangerous than Delta, it is believed to be more contagious. At most I think we'll only see shutdowns in the vein of Aladdin or Chicago.

#8

Omicron Variant Concerns

Some people will choose to live in fear for the rest of their lives. The rest of us will not.

#9

Omicron Variant Concerns

Dylan Smith4 said: "God, I hope not! I did hear though that the omicron cases were fully vaccinated individuals, but had very mild symptoms and are expected to recover."



in other words, just like having the common cold

#10

Omicron Variant Concerns

Right now I'm not changing my plans but I'm keeping an eye on what conclusions are drawn as scientists get more data about omicron. Even with decreased vaccine efficacy, I wouldn't expect a shutdown unless people behave stupidly. I hope everyone is still practicing appropriate caution (e.g. masks, hand-washing, social distancing, testing). I wonder if we will see more flexible policies for cancelling/exchanging tickets to encourage people who feel unwell to stay home and if other places will follow Roundabout and pause selling concessions.

#11

Omicron Variant Concerns

Another shutdown would destroy Broadway and the US economy. Having had to work during the first shutdown, I'll be damned if I'm gonna work through that nonsense again.


A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
#12

Omicron Variant Concerns

Another shutdown = the death of Broadway

I hope our elected officials are aware of that, and make plans accordingly.

#13

Omicron Variant Concerns

BroadwayRox3588 said: "Another shutdown = the death of Broadway

I hope our elected officials are aware of that, and make plans accordingly.
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I don't think there is any reason another shutdown would be necessary in New York (it appears that Omicron is contagious but not very dangerous, and a large majority of people in NYC are vaccinated (and an overwhelming majority within the theatre-going precincts), but I cannot fathom how another shutdown would kill Broadway (permanently, which I assume is the suggestion). I hope our elected officials follow the science. In the final analysis human life is more important than anything else. (This seems like something that should not need to be explained, but just look at what murderers some of our elected officials have proven themselves to be.)

#14

Omicron Variant Concerns

I would hope that vaccine protection against severe disease (which most scientists seem to think is likely) would be enough to keep Broadway open. Otherwise it would be shutting down over basically a cold.

#15

Omicron Variant Concerns

I don't see Broadway producers holding onto their shows again if they're shutdown for another X months.


A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
#16

Omicron Variant Concerns

ACL2006 said: "I don't see Broadway producers holding onto their shows again if they're shutdown for another X months."

Sadly, I agree.

#17

Omicron Variant Concerns

No.

As others have said, it appears to be that Omicron cases are generally mild among fully vaccinated people. Considering that Broadway is requiring vaccinations (and masks) I think it's pretty safe. Broadway doesn't shut down for colds or the flu. Not to say that individual shows won't suspend performances if a company member tests positive, but I really don't think we're gonna see anything close to what happened in 2020. As mentioned another shutdown would be extremely bad news for the industry and many shows would probably sadly not survive. Broadway needs the money so I think they will do whatever they can to stay open, especially as we're getting into the busy holiday season when a ton of ticket sales come pouring in. As long as schools, restaurants, movie theatres, retail shops, etc remain open (with vaccine and mask mandates in place) I don't see Broadway going anywhere. They are taking all the right precautions. Being in a Broadway theatre where everyone has shown proof of vaccination and is masked is probably safer than going to the grocery store.


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#18

Omicron Variant Concerns

JSquared2 said: "Some people will choose to live in fear for the rest of their lives. The rest of us will not."

Once again, you miss the point. We aren’t living in fear, we are discussing a new variant and its potential impact on the industry. Your need to be better than everyone else is insufferable.


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#19

Omicron Variant Concerns

Omicron was probably floating around here for a while before anyone from the anime convention tested positive for it. I've been boosted for a month, I'm double-masking at the theatre, and I'm only eating indoors in sparsely populated places, and I'm still surprised at seeing instagram stories of people at crowded bars (but that's how I've felt for almost two years now...). I think it's VERY easy to get caught up in a whirlwind of panic, but I follow enough real epidemiologists on social media to not do so myself.


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#20

Omicron Variant Concerns

Delta was more serious and Broadway has survived for almost 4 months. Keep testing everybody and keep up with the protocols. It's working. Break-through cases can hurt shows, but it's better than everything going down at once.

#21

Omicron Variant Concerns

The only real cause for concern would be if the variant was vaccine resistant, which is almost impossible. It would take a decade of mutation for that to happen.

I think the new actions, such as the expansion of booster access and at-home tests, are enough to make it through the winter wave. We also caught the new variant really early, and almost two years of the pandemic has given us plenty of experience with this virus to contain it without completely shutting down again.

As someone said on another thread, Broadway's been open now for 4 months, with over 30 shows open, thousands of theatre artists working again, and tens of thousands of audience members, and we've only seen 3 shows cancel performances due to breakthrough cases.

#22

Omicron Variant Concerns

Special kudos to the South African labs that caught this variant early, so now we can trace it. In general, like others have said, it's contagious but mild, so on this trend, it'll likely become more like a cold or flu. And being a NYC resident, I feel like when it comes to the virus, I'm in one of the safest places in the world right now.

That said, inbound tourism scares me, as do some of the close-quartered activities I see some of these actors engaging in online, but I don't think it'll do enough to scuttle our economy again.




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#23

Omicron Variant Concerns

I don't think ANYONE'S economy can handle another shut down, so unless EVERYTHING shuts down again - which I find incredibly doubtful - I doubt we'll see it.


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#24

Omicron Variant Concerns

Alex Kulak2 said: "The only real cause for concern would be if the variant was vaccine resistant, which is almost impossible. It would take a decade of mutation for that to happen.

I think the new actions, such as the expansion of booster access and at-home tests, are enough to make it through the winter wave. We also caught the new variant really early, and almost two years of the pandemic has given us plenty of experience with this virus to contain it without completely shutting down again.

As someone said on another thread, Broadway's been open now for 4 months, with over 30 shows open, thousands of theatre artists working again, and tens of thousands of audience members, and we've only seen 3 shows cancel performances due to breakthrough cases.
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Also too there's monoclonal antibody treatments and the new Merck antiviral pill that should be approved for use soon.

I can't remember where I saw this (either on the tv or a article) but each time covid has a new variant, it should get weaker and weaker, meaning, the variant causes less symptoms and overall illness. Its only a theory so the next variant could be the exact opposite. It looks like we are getting to that point with the Omicron variant but only time will tell. So far all of the Omicron variant cases are very mild. All of the USA cases so far are breakthrough cases from individuals who are vaccinated. Once we get unvaccinated cases (which it is only a matter of time when we will), we will see how this variant behaves.


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#25

Omicron Variant Concerns

It is encouraging that nearly all breakthrough cases, including those not boosted (which is most of them), have been mild. As was true with Alpha and Delta. But, as always, more data needed.

As to what I said about the ramifications of another Broadway shutdown, I stand by what I said earlier. Broadway would not recover.

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