Pacific Overtures — Page 5
#102
Posted: 2/3/15 at 8:34pm
"That sickly, whiney, tuneless music and the excruciatingly forced and self-indulgent lyrics would never be anything I would--- or ever could --- listen to in my home, and I hated how they both contributed to the mean, mean-spirited, subversive, rotten story (ITW). "
And yet you have probably spent a *lot* of money on seeing various Sondheim shows over time (not to mention the myriad of other shows you decide in advance you will find unpleasant.) Which is really, really sad and also absolutely hysterical. I delight in the hought of you sitting in a theatre, after paying $100, with a scowl planted firmly on your face before the orchestra has even played a note.
And yet you have probably spent a *lot* of money on seeing various Sondheim shows over time (not to mention the myriad of other shows you decide in advance you will find unpleasant.) Which is really, really sad and also absolutely hysterical. I delight in the hought of you sitting in a theatre, after paying $100, with a scowl planted firmly on your face before the orchestra has even played a note.
#103
Posted: 2/3/15 at 8:49pm
Has AE ever mentioned how he feels about WEST SIDE STORY and GYPSY? Let me guess, he finds Sondheim lyrics the the worst part of the shows.
#104
Posted: 2/3/15 at 8:52pm
Good to know that you take pleasure in others pain, EricMonreal.
#105
Posted: 2/3/15 at 8:59pm
"That sickly, whiney, tuneless music and the excruciatingly forced and self-indulgent lyrics would never be anything I would--- or ever could --- listen to in my home, and I hated how they both contributed to the mean, mean-spirited, subversive, rotten story (ITW)."
Funny thing is...the way you continuously put down others is mean, mean-spirited subversive, and rotten.
Funny thing is...the way you continuously put down others is mean, mean-spirited subversive, and rotten.
Updated On: 2/3/15 at 08:59 PM
#106
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:00pm
"Good to know that you take pleasure in others pain, EricMonreal."
That's our Eric.
But really, he's no different than the others of his ilk.
And Eric, I decide nothing in advance. There would be no point in going to the theatre if I did.
That's our Eric.
But really, he's no different than the others of his ilk.
And Eric, I decide nothing in advance. There would be no point in going to the theatre if I did.
#108
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:06pm
Showface,
If you expect answers to your questions, don't insult the person you're addressing.
If you expect answers to your questions, don't insult the person you're addressing.
#109
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:06pm
"Good to know that you take pleasure in others pain, EricMonreal."
A8 says mean things that put people down to. Have a response to any of those posts?
A8 says mean things that put people down to. Have a response to any of those posts?
#110
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:08pm
My favorite thing about After Eight is how he actually thinks there is a group of people who decided "theatre is too fun and gives people too much happiness" and decided to make Stephen Sondheim popular just to stop this. And, above all that, he's the only one who sees it!
"Sticks and stones, sister. Here, have a Valium." - Patti LuPone, a Memoir
#111
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:20pm
I like how he barrels into a thread, insults everyone, and acts offended when everyone's like "what the hell are you doing".
edit: "I just like fun and nice things and feeling good" - the most offensive, bitter asshole on this forum
edit: "I just like fun and nice things and feeling good" - the most offensive, bitter asshole on this forum
Updated On: 2/3/15 at 09:20 PM
#112
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:23pm
How do you define "Dirgical"?
After Eight.
After Eight.
"Sticks and stones, sister. Here, have a Valium." - Patti LuPone, a Memoir
#113
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:28pm
A8, I'm sorry if that offended you; it is updated now.
Now, I ask again: would you pay money to see one of Sondheim's next shows?
Now, I ask again: would you pay money to see one of Sondheim's next shows?
#114
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:31pm
^
Out of the goodness of my heart, and since you made an attempt to set things right, I'll answer:
Yes.
Out of the goodness of my heart, and since you made an attempt to set things right, I'll answer:
Yes.
#115
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:33pm
That's all I wanted to know. Thank you. Now, another question:
Do you have any data charts/tables/statistics that prove that the audience members were bored out of their minds during the numerous Sondheim shows you have attended? If so, would you post it, or link to an online blog and or journal where this evidence has been posted?
Do you have any data charts/tables/statistics that prove that the audience members were bored out of their minds during the numerous Sondheim shows you have attended? If so, would you post it, or link to an online blog and or journal where this evidence has been posted?
#116
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:33pm
I've tried and tried to engage--without success--so I'm content that A8's posts are just feeble attempts to get attention.
So I'm going to take Mencken and Ashman's advice to "Don't feed the plant!"
So I'm going to take Mencken and Ashman's advice to "Don't feed the plant!"
#117
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:39pm
Showface,
Do I need any data/charts/tables/ statistics to show that people who get caught in a thunderstorm without umbrellas get soaking wet?
I can see that for myself.
So can anyone --- anyone who bothers to look.
Do I need any data/charts/tables/ statistics to show that people who get caught in a thunderstorm without umbrellas get soaking wet?
I can see that for myself.
So can anyone --- anyone who bothers to look.
#118
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:40pm
On an unrelated topic, you know what's really nice? The OBC orchestrations for "There Is No Other Way". Such a serene piece of music, I get lost in it every time I hear it.
#119
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:46pm
In fairness, I think the relatively short runs of most Sondheim-composed shows in New York and London prove A8's point that Sondheim appeals to a minority of theater goers.
On the other hand, the fact that Sondheim is still getting produced in his 80s is a testament to the devotion of his admirers.
So quantity, no; but quality, yes.
And during the past half-century, Sondheim has had more performances than Verdi, Wagner and Puccini combined, so being a minority taste is not an indication of a lack of ability.
On the other hand, the fact that Sondheim is still getting produced in his 80s is a testament to the devotion of his admirers.
So quantity, no; but quality, yes.
And during the past half-century, Sondheim has had more performances than Verdi, Wagner and Puccini combined, so being a minority taste is not an indication of a lack of ability.
#120
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:46pm
A8,
That is a non-similar cause/effect situation you described. However, that logic would not work in the situation I am discussing. How would you know by observing that the some members of the audience looked disappointed/upset by the show? Maybe they smelled some tuna in the audience and they were disappointed. Maybe they felt sick from food poisoning from a bad seafood place they attended. You need polls to support this "evidence" you have thrown around. In the words of Eliza Doolittle, "Show me".
That is a non-similar cause/effect situation you described. However, that logic would not work in the situation I am discussing. How would you know by observing that the some members of the audience looked disappointed/upset by the show? Maybe they smelled some tuna in the audience and they were disappointed. Maybe they felt sick from food poisoning from a bad seafood place they attended. You need polls to support this "evidence" you have thrown around. In the words of Eliza Doolittle, "Show me".
#121
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:49pm
And maybe they were simply pondering what they had seen, given that PACIFIC OVERTURES quite deliberately pushed the boundaries of musical theater.
Something many of us consider a virtue.
I love THE PAJAMA GAME, too, but I don't need to hear it duplicated forever more.
Something many of us consider a virtue.
I love THE PAJAMA GAME, too, but I don't need to hear it duplicated forever more.
#123
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:54pm
No data? No argument.
Saying you say, "the truth" is not enough.
How do I know you say "the truth"? The evidence is not there.
Sorry, but there is no argument from your side, and all of your arguments dealing with the audience reactions recently have been deemed faulty and inaccurate.
And that is the real truth.
Saying you say, "the truth" is not enough.
How do I know you say "the truth"? The evidence is not there.
Sorry, but there is no argument from your side, and all of your arguments dealing with the audience reactions recently have been deemed faulty and inaccurate.
And that is the real truth.
Updated On: 2/16/15 at 09:54 PM
#124
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:58pm
"And during the last half-century Sondheim has had more performances than Verdi, Wagner and Puccini combined"
More performances imposed upon us.
That factoid, in a nutshell, proves the sorry state of the last half-century (as if we needed any proof).
As Irving Berlin wrote in Mr. President:
"Let'so Go Back to the Waltz."
More performances imposed upon us.
That factoid, in a nutshell, proves the sorry state of the last half-century (as if we needed any proof).
As Irving Berlin wrote in Mr. President:
"Let'so Go Back to the Waltz."
#125
Posted: 2/3/15 at 9:59pm
Charley Kringas, I also like there is no other way, as well as Pretty Lady for how calm and peaceful they sound.
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