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"Perfect for US": The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!

KingKong
#125re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 12:47am

The people I called an idiot were called that because they are. Not because they have a different opinion. they are REFUSING TO THINK. and failing completely to show they know how to anlyze drama that is what an idiot is.


If you don't like it, i could care less.

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#126re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 12:56am

I agree about Gabe being more of a force inside of Diana. I don't know if she literally sees him talking to her during I AM THE ONE.

But then again, in the first few minutes of the show, Dan asks Diana what voices he heard and she says she was talking to herself...so was she talking to the ghost of Gabe or just talking to herself as if she was reprimanding him for coming home late? I don't know...this is a confusing one for me.

One one hand, I don't know if he's necessarily something Diana actually SEES but at the same time, we see her yell at him for coming home so late and tell him to get ready for the bus.
Updated On: 4/1/09 at 12:56 AM

KingKong
#127re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 12:58am

It's CLEAR she sees him. and she's not the only one.

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KingKong
#129re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 1:13am

What, how is there any doubt in your mind that she sees him?


Seriously, that is something that is made plainly obvious. debating whether he's real is one thing, but there's no doubt that she sees him.

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changinandhow
#130re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 1:13am

In Diana's case, with her issues, she does actually hallucinate her son; I think the Gabe that the audience is seeing is the one Diana has formulated in her mind. Dr. Fine even states during "Psychopharmacologist" that she has delusional episodes.

During the I'm Alive reprise, she's actually seeing something -- when she tries to get Dan to turn and look, too, or in the way she is looking at him when she runs up to the second level to get Natalie.


Updated On: 4/1/09 at 01:13 AM

heo1128
#131re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 1:30am

I think Gabe has to be more than a ghost, because he embraces Diana several times...and physically keeps Dan in the chair in I am the One Reprise. However, in Light Diana does say "Some hurts never heal, some ghosts are never gone". Though I think that's more metaphorical.

Maybe she just has stage 4 melanoma. (Grey's Anatomy, anyone?)

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dramamama611
#132re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 5:29am

I think there can DEFINITELY be an argument that Diana sees him in her head only...but seeing him in her head can be just as real and life changing....having formed THAT clear of an image of a grown young man....his body, his face etc? We're not talking DAYDREAMS, but interactions.

I'm not saying that IS the way I interpret it (I haven't seen it since 2nd Stage...so it is not fresh enough in my mind to personally discuss it.) But the argument that most of GABE is for the audience personified is "plausible."

Art of any kind is interpretive....it can mean anything to anyone of us.


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Updated On: 4/1/09 at 05:29 AM

Craww
#133re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 5:43am

Whether she sees him (ie, hallucinates him) or sees him in her head? That's just splitting hairs. A delusion is a delusion, and no matter how her brain is envisioning him specifically, he's still a delusion. How Gabe appears to the audience doesn't necessarily have to line up 100% with how he's actually appearing to her.

When you factor Dan into it, that's where the only debate on Gabe's nature is. Either Dan and Diana have a folie à deux or the kid is a trufax ghost. That's the part that's up for interpretation.

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TheBoyDownstairs
#134re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 8:28am

As for the comment that it would be more effective if Gabe were less attractive, I couldnt disagree more. Gabe being a good looking kid is all a part of the "Superboy" image that Diana has imagined for him.




I was watching New York 1 this morning for 2 or 3 minutes to get the weather and in that time I saw 2 of the Next To Normal commercials run. I saw the Diana one and the Meet The Family one.

The Diana one had no voiceover until the very end when it said "Next To Normal, playing on Broadway. The Meet the Family one had a voiceover playing the whole time saying "From the director of Rent comes a groundbreaking new musical"

Hopefully people are intrigued by these commercials because they really are visually interesting and the music is great.

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#135re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 8:38am

I just get the feeling that people will be intrigued, sure, but will they want to get up and buy tickets because of the commercials? Doubtful. Like I said, the marketing team has an uphill climb.

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Elphaba3
#136re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 7:50pm

Does the cast sign autographs after matinees?

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steven22
#137re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 9:00pm

Updated On: 4/2/09 at 09:00 PM

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TheBoyDownstairs
#138re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 11:01pm

I saw the show again tonight from the front row, in all the times I've seen the show this is the first time I've been really close.

I couldnt take my eyes off Alice Ripley, I knew she was giving an amazing performance, but didnt realize just how amazing until I got to see her up so close.

Ugh, I love this show way too much, I wish I didnt. It would save me some money from needing so many repeat performances. I can't wait to go again.

heo1128
#139re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 11:03pm

"Ugh, I love this show way too much, I wish I didnt. It would save me some money from needing so many repeat performances. I can't wait to go again."

Haha doesn't that suck? That's the one drawback of being a theater fan...it's a damn expensive hobby.

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TheBoyDownstairs
#140re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 11:12pm

Usually I am not a repeat customer for shows, even ones I absolutely adore. Before all my repeat visits to N2N, the only show I had ever seen twice was Xanadu.

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singtopher
#141re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 11:20pm

I saw the show tonight. It's probably the most solid musical we've had in a long time. Alice Ripley better win a Tony for this.


"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it." -Stephen Colbert

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adamgreer
#142re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 11:21pm

Ugh, I love this show way too much, I wish I didnt. It would save me some money from needing so many repeat performances. I can't wait to go again.

Join the club. I'm going back again this weekend. I can't get enough...

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TheBoyDownstairs
#143re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 11:24pm

I wasnt planning on going back until at least a week from now, but now I am thinking I may rush on Sunday. Keeps drawing me back in.

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WiCkEDrOcKS
#144re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 11:26pm

I was there again this evening. Fantastic...the second act dragged a little more than it did the first time I saw it though.

Ripley was, if it's possible, better than she was at the first preview. Just totally invested in the character and completely brilliant.

And I realized tonight that Spencer is giving a Tony-worthy performance...too bad it's only in one scene. The scene where Diana leaves until the end of the I'M ALIVE reprise was stunning. That is the kind of performance he should be giving throughout the entire show. Louis Hobson is fantastic in both roles; his voice is great, I just wish he had more material to work with.

Tveit was good, again I don't see the raves being justified. Damiano continues to grow in her role brilliantly as does Chanler-Berat (who is just adorable, especially in the PERFECT scene).

The show is in wonderful shape; no laughs during the scenes that were mentioned. They were filming B-Roll, the theater was clearly HIGHLY papered, and the audience response seemed a bit more mixed than it was on the night of the first preview. Some were crying, some were indifferent, and some said they weren't fans and seemed to leave feeling cold. I love this show so much; it's so powerful and while it isn't perfect, it is (to paraphrase Brantley) of the utmost importance to anyone who cares about the direction and future of the American musical.
Updated On: 4/1/09 at 11:26 PM

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singtopher
#145re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 11:44pm

ROCKS- My friend and I talked about how incredible Spencer was in that scene. We agreed that it took him a while to find his stride, it could almost be purposeful since that is when he finally breaks down. Before hand his character is so blocked to emotion. It goes with the theme of the physical and psychological need to grieve.


"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it." -Stephen Colbert

heo1128
#146re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/1/09 at 11:48pm

That's exactly what I thought. He's great and really moving in Act II, but is just lacking the heart on Act I.

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#147re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/2/09 at 12:03am

I was planning on going at least twice more before opening night (which I will hopefully be attending if all goes as I hope it will) but I realized that I A) need to save my money and B) can wait two weeks to see it again.
Updated On: 4/2/09 at 12:03 AM

KingKong
#148re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/2/09 at 12:38am

I'd kill a hobo by throwing them in front of a 1 train to go to opening night. But I think I'll save myself the jail time and go to a late preview.

fetzles1490
#149re: 'Perfect for US': The NEXT TO NORMAL love thread!
Posted: 4/2/09 at 10:44am

I'll be there again tonight! Just got back from grabbing rush tickets. Front row center, so excited!

KingKong, mind if I join in on throwing a hobo in front of the subway for opening night tickets? Let's scheme.


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