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[bjh2114]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:00pm

"Why I didn't like the choreogrpahy was that it was way to repetative. ...An award should go to the best of the best. This was not the best choreogrpahy this year."

I agree completely. I never said it was the best choreography though, but shouldn't the best 4 be the 4 nominations? I feel as though the Hot Feet choreography was better than the almost non-existent choreography of Drowsy. Personally I think the Wedding Singer will and should win this one, but Hot Feet should have gotten a nod over Drowsy.

Also InfititeTheaterFrenzy, why do you agree? Why is it that the choreography should have anything to do with the plot/characters? I understand the dancing in a musical about the 80's should be in an 80's style, but this has nothing to do with the plot? Since when does Drowsy's or Wedding Singer's choreography have anything to do with the plot?
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[uncageg]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:05pm

Somehow, I double posted. Sorry!

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:06pm

The only time I look for choreography to advance the plot is when I'm seeing a ballet.

There were several numbers in Hot Feet where I enjoyed the choreography. Though I do admit the pelvic thrusts got a little out of hand! After a while I was like, "Enough already!"

I was actually disappointed with the choreography in The Drowsy Chaperone. The show really needed a tap number for the entire cast. I felt that was the one thing missing from what was an otherwise enjoyable show.

Updated On: 5/16/06 at 02:06 PM

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:07pm

I'm not a dancer, but I think I have a good eye (as most of us do on here) for good choreography.

I went in thinking that HOT FEET's choreography would blow my mind - I thought it would be amazing. I was actually shocked at how hideous and repetitive it was - which is a shame - because if the choreography had actually been decent, the dancers would look even better.

[bjh2114]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:10pm

Oh yeah Munk, I agree in that it wasn't nearly as good as I expected it to be. But what did you think of the dancing in Drowsy?

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:27pm

What dancing in DROWSY?

I recall a simple, unimpressive, pointless tab number, and some interesting stuff for Sutton Foster in "Show Off." Other than that, I recall absolutely zero choreography from that show - let alone choreography deserving of any sort of award.

The choreography could and should have been spectacular - however, you can't blame Nicholaw, because the music doesn't really lend itself to big, knock-out dance numbers. I thought it was suitable, but nothing more. It shouldn't even be nominated, let alone win.

However, I do think that THE COLOR PURPLE's choreography is fantastic, and I also like THE WEDDING SINGER's choreography.

The best choreography of the season, though, is Kathleen Marshall's work on THE PAJAMA GAME. She succeeded in totally reinventing the material - something that, as Wayne Cilento has proven, isn't as easy as it sounds. The only thing working against her is her recent win for WONDERFUL TOWN - but she's the only one this year that I really want to see win. She deserves it HANDS down.

[Garland Grrrl]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:30pm

wow. HOT FEET was a hot mess as they say and such a waste of talent and money. i predict a big career for vivian nixon, if broadway is her thing. someone give keith david a real human being to play, please!
speaking of prejudice, the producers of HOT FEET hired a bunch of female musicians to play the show -- bad ass women who can wail -- and the a-hole music director fired them all. FIRED THEM ALL.
Karma is a bitch and so am i.

[Enjolras77]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:31pm

I agree with what Musicman117 said....I just think that for whatever reason Hot Feet was just overlooked. Every year there seems to be a show that is shut out in the nominations that probably deserved to be nominated in at least one of the creative or design categories.

Just take 1997 as an example. Jekyll and Hyde received only 1 nomination --for Robert Cuccioli--but it wasn't nominated for Best Score. Juan Darien: A Carnival Mass, on the other hand, was. J&H was a flawed show that the critics despised and it was reflected in its lack of nominations. However, looking back on all the scores nominated in 1997, Jekyll and Hyde is probably close to having if not being the most memorable and performed score of that year (no offense to Titanic, Steel Pier, or The Life-- all decent scores) -- but it is especially more memorable than that of Juan Darien.

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[munkustrap178]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:33pm

I liked TITANIC, STEEL PIER, and THE LIFE better than JEKYLL AND HYDE. It was a big mess.

[Enjolras77]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:35pm

I agree...I like those scores better too. But it was much more deserving than Juan Darien. I can't even name one song from that show.

Trust me...I am not a big crusader for Jekyll and Hyde...but I was trying to find an example of a show that wasn't embraced by critcis and the committee yet deserved at least a nomination. If I picked a show that wasn't a big mess then there is no way to make a comparison to Hot Feet -- which is just that.

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[bjh2114]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:36pm

Munk, you officially just became my favorite person in the world!
BJH

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:38pm

Now there's choreography for you. I can't get that, "Murder, Murder" number out of my head with all those umbrellas. I kept waiting for someone to get whacked.

Updated On: 5/16/06 at 02:38 PM

[Enjolras77]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:40pm

Dottie, the staging for that number should get the award for WORST choreography in a musical!

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:44pm

And worst rhyme ever. "Paul's...Balls."

But I wonder how the tour looked with Jerry Mitchell choreographing. Must have been more like "It's Raining Men" than "Chim Chim Cher-ee."

[uncageg]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:46pm

I saw Jekyl & Hyde in Denver before it went to Broadway. They destroyed the show when it got there. I was pretty shocked when I saw what they had done to it.

[NYNYBroadwaybaby]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:52pm

First of all, this post pisses me off. Mainly because people use racism as an excuse way too often. I am black and in the business, and I've experience real racism. This is not it. I saw Hot Feet, I enjoyed many things about it. The choreography was not one of them. The dancers were great, and had they been given better choreography they would have looked amazing. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be upset that it didn't get nominations, because that's all a matter of opinion. It does mean stop and think before you accuse someone of racism, because the more you do it, the less people will believe it when it really happens.

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 2:55pm

Just because it's difficult choreography doesn't mean it is good.

Look at "Carrie" - that was some hard s-h-i-t.

[bjh2114]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 3:00pm

I would rate the dancing in HOT FEET on a difficulty scale from 1 to 10, 10 being the hardest, at a 6. I would rate the quality at a 7.5. The choreography was good, but not terribly difficult.
-BJH
P.S. I didn't see Carrie, but that doesn't surprise me. God forbid Debbie Allen ever do anything easy for her dancers, lol.

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 3:01pm

"Dottie, the staging for that number should get the award for WORST choreography in a musical!"

But the choreographer, Joey Pizzi, is damn cute!

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 3:22pm

Joey Pizzi is cute, so I guess that cancels it out then!!

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 3:26pm

He should've stuck to dancing, in a towel like in Damn Yankees!

[ljay889]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 3:30pm

Candida, is seriously messed up.

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 3:39pm

Candida, imo, is having fun with this site...take a look at his/her thread history.

[wonderwaiter]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 3:45pm

When did sock puppets get so gassy?

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 5/16/06 at 3:55pm

heh...maybe I'll make all these threads about Joey Pizzi.