Someone snuck into the National theatre — Page 2

dearalanaaaa said: "Why wasn't security there? What about a show? Tech? I haven't watched the video, will somebody summarize it?"

Security was there. And the guy's whole face was showed, so I'm guessing he's out of a job.

trpguyy said: "My comment was in response to the suggestion that walking on catwalks could somehow compromise their structural integrity — as if they aren’t constructed for the purpose of walking on (and hanging things off of).

I haven’t watched the entire video — only scrubbed through it — but if anyone can give me time stamps of when these guys, for example, re-weighted flying pieces, reprogrammed automation consoles, or whittled away at hemp lines, I’m happy to amend me earlier statement.

Otherwise, this is just a video of people being dumb where they’re not supposed to be, and I don’t understand the panic displayed here in this thread."



So if they didn't tape it and uploaded it to Youtube, then it's all good and safe? You have no concept of theatre safety whatsoever.

blaxx said: "So if they didn't tape it and uploaded it to Youtube, then it's all good and safe? You have no concept of theatre safety whatsoever."

What did you see in the video that you think compromised any of the equipment pertaining to the show? It’s possible I missed it, but more likely that you’re overreacting to something that you don’t understand.

trpguyy said: "What did you see in the video that you think compromised any of the equipment pertaining to the show? It’s possible I missed it, but more likely that you’re overreacting to something that you don’t understand."

So you're saying that 16:26 video showed everything they did in that theater for the 10-12 hours they were there? Nothing they touched, pulled on, pushed, stood on, loosened, twisted, dislodged, unknowingly moved, etc. for 12 hours was missed by that 16:26 video so if we watch that and nothing appears problematic, we're all good? Uh... OK.

trpguyy---PM me your address and leave your back door open[make sure you are out] so we can dance around your living room, wear your Mums' clothes[or yours] check out your house, clean out the fridge[hungry from all that exploring and dancing] then collapse in a heap on your tired old curtains.

Am sure that wouldn't bother you now would it ?

SweetLips said: "trpguyy---PM me your address and leave your back door open[make sure you are out] so we can dance around your living room, wear your Mums' clothes[or yours] check out your house, clean out the fridge[hungry from all that exploring and dancing] then collapse in a heap on your tired old curtains.

Am sure that wouldn't bother you now would it ?"

Have at it. Feel free to climb on the handrails in my building's stair well, too. They (like theater catwalks) were designed to take the weight.

Edit: In your example, I would probably be bothered by random people rifling through my home. Would I declare the couch unsafe because a stranger sat on it? No.
The folks who work at the National have a right to be "bothered." Their "stuff" was trampled on -- being bothered is perfectly understandable. Random theatre fans have no business being bothered -- it's not their stuff, and to act like the sky is falling because somebody climbed a truss (again, they're designed for that) is ridiculous.

Updated On: 12/23/17 at 11:16 PM

trpguyy said: "blaxx said: "So if they didn't tape it and uploaded it to Youtube, then it's all good and safe? You have no concept of theatre safety whatsoever."

What did you see in the video that you think compromised any of the equipment pertaining to the show? It’s possible I missed it, but more likely that you’re overreacting to something that you don’t understand."

I'm with blaxx. I work in theater tech, and if was a show I was working on, we'd be triple checking everything, from cabling to the pipes, to make sure that A) nothing is broken and all equipment still functions as designed for the performance and B) they didn't bump a pipe into the way of a moving set piece, that might knock it fifty feet to the stage or cause damage to a drop during a rehearsal or performance. While it's unlikely that they caused much damage, you just do not **** around with safety in theater, when you'll have dozens of people on and around the stage, with 1100 people watching. You just don't know what these two kids did backstage while they were there, because they spent a few hours, and only uploaded about 12 minutes of video of them actually being backstage.



And it doesn't matter if a truss is designed to take the weight of a person. They are untrained, in a theater space they have never been in before. They don't know what's safe to climb and what isn't, as demonstrated by the pipe one of them used slipping when the kid put his weight on it. They could have been seriously hurt, or caused serious harm to someone else later on.

John Adams said: "trpguyy said: "What did you see in the video that you think compromised any of the equipment pertaining to the show? It’s possible I missed it, but more likely that you’re overreacting to something that you don’t understand."

The logic behind your question is flawed.

Accidents don't happen because of what you can see - they happen because of what you CAN'T. (If you could SEE a potential accident. you could avoid it.)"

Accidents can and do happen either way, but I'll take that as a "there's actually nothing compromising in the video." Thanks for playing.

Updated On: 12/24/17 at 05:01 PM

trpguyy said: "UncleCharlie said: "trpguyy said: "What did you see in the video that you think compromised any of the equipment pertaining to the show? It’s possible I missed it, but more likely that you’re overreacting to something that you don’t understand."

So you're saying that 16:26 video showed everything they did in that theater for the 10-12 hours they were there? Nothing they touched, pulled on, pushed, stood on, loosened, twisted, dislodged, unknowingly moved,etc. for 12 hours was missed by that 16:26 video so if we watch that and nothing appears problematic, we're all good? Uh... OK."

Not what I said. I asked for specific things in the video that are causing you people to freak out. Still waiting..."

Are you unable to read?

"

The two men were able to get into the theatre after hours when they found an unlocked door on the roof of the building.

Much of their time was spent climbing on rails backstage, which became precarious when one the railings came loose. At one point, the two encountered a security guard, but managed to continue their antics after telling him they were at the theatre for “late night rehearsal.”

Through the course of the night, the two men explored backstage, danced on the stage, hung out in dressing rooms and tried on costumes before finding a spare curtain to nestle into and sleep for a few hours.

"

trpguyy said: "But those checks are supposed to happen before every performance anyway, and if they don't, the production carp should be fired."

You beat me to it. In a professional setting such as this, ALL of the equipment is tested and checked prior to each performance. Also, the National Theatre is a relatively modern building, there should be no major concern about structural failure causing injuries.

What they did is wrong. EVEN if it's only trespassing. It's wrong regardless of whether they damaged anything or were (or weren't) in potential danger.



Posting this kind of crap is irresponsible, as it encourages like behaviour and to futher it - to go bigger, take bigger risks, etc.