Starshines Unite! The official HAIR love thread...- Page 61

[GlindatheGood22]

Posted: 8/7/09 at 7:31pm

Damn. Seeing the show tomorrow and I was hoping to see Gavin. Oh, well. You get what you get.

[kryst22]

Posted: 8/7/09 at 7:35pm

Allison is nursing a hip injury. Updated On: 8/7/09 at 07:35 PM

[viola13]

Posted: 8/7/09 at 8:03pm

Steel's on as Berger for the rest of the weekend according to a fairly random article in my local paper. He's apparently from two towns over from mine. Can't find it online, or else I would link to it.

[taylorPHENOMENON2]

Posted: 8/7/09 at 8:07pm

Wow...I hope Allison's okay! Her statuses have been heartbreaking

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/7/09 at 8:42pm

Creepy Crawl!

[sgv123]

Posted: 8/7/09 at 8:57pm

Allison G. is on as Mom tonight as well.

[claudioislove]

Posted: 8/8/09 at 8:08pm

hi all. I don't really have much to say, but figured the thread could use a bump. I've been away for two weeks, so that's why no posting.

anyway, it sucks how sick everyone is. ):

[taylorPHENOMENON2]

Posted: 8/8/09 at 9:03pm

2 new videos on Kober's channel!

YouTube.com/akober220

[musicalmack]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 12:15am

OK, I just have a quick kinda random question about the new cast recording:

During "Walking in Space" which cast member sings "my mind is as clear as country air"? I've always been intrigued with her voice and I don't recognize it in any of the other songs on the recording.

Anyone know? Thanks!

[singalongsong2]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 12:26am

^^^ Kacie Sheik (Jeanie) sings that part.

[musicalmack]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 12:44am

Thanks!!

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 12:56am

Happy 40th Anniversary Starshines!

Helter Skelter! It's coming down fast!

[CSonBroadway]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 10:18am

Can someone explain to me the significance of "Three-Five-Zero-Zero"

I love the song, but don't really understand what it is about.

[TreyKenyon]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 10:21am

^

I'm in the same boat lol It's one of my favorite songs but I don't quite get it. I do remember reading it's based on a poem from that era, but that's all I got.

[CSonBroadway]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 10:26am

I might be seeing the show again from the orch in late August. I have to wait a week to buy the tickets cause my friend isn't home. I really hope they don't sell out.

[yay_gerb]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 10:31am

"Three-Five-Zero-Zero" is based on an Alan Ginsberg poem titled "Wichita Vortex Sutra". the number 3500 refers to the number of Vietcong killed in one month, as reported by General Maxwell Taylor.

i learned that from this book. if your a big Hair fan i recommend buying this book. it explains parts of the show where i was clueless as to what the songs meant and now i'm like...ohhhhh!

http://www.amazon.com/Let-Sun-Shine-Genius-HAIR/dp/0325005567/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1249828487&sr=8-1

[CSonBroadway]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 10:37am

Is that book sold in stores anywhere?

[yay_gerb]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 10:47am

sorry CS but i don't think so. i checked B&N and they don't even have it listed. Borders has it back ordered online, but not available in stores.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 11:19am

The flavor of Ginsburg is all over HAIR. Particulary the Hare Krishna number, which just seemed to be a bunch of kids looking for a spiritual connection but finding, in reality, a cult.

And speaking of cults, and naive smiles and peace signs and flowers and hugs and freedom and drugs, it's really important to remember the vulnerability of young people and how their search for an alternative way of being leaves the open to exploitation but unscrupulous types.

To wit: "Even after all this time, it?s hard to comprehend how the shimmering apex of countercultural values that Woodstock represents could coexist so closely with their most horrifying nadir."

The horrifying nadir. The other side of the coin. The other shoe dropping.

You have to face this if you really want to appreciate the near-genius of this HAIR production.


Peace, Love and Charlie Manson (not Marilyn, yaygerb, as you seemed to think last week)

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 11:26am

And for further elucidation, John Waters's excellent piece on his friendship, and imprisoned Manson follower.

"The Manson Family" were the hippies all our parents were scared we'd turn into if we didn't stop taking drugs. The "slippies", as Manson later called his followers, the insane ones who didn't understand the humor in Yippie Abbie Hoffman's fiery speeches on his college lecture tours when he told the stoned, revolutionary-for-the-hell-of-it students to "kill their parents". Yes, Charlie's posse were the real anarchists who went beyond the radical SDS group's call to "Bring the War Home". Beyond blowing up their parents' townhouses, draft boards, even the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C. Sure, my friends went to riots every weekend in different cities in the '60s to get laid or get high, just like kids went to "raves" decades later. But, God, this was a cultural war, not a real one and the survivors of this time now realize we were in a "play" revolution, no matter what we spouted.

The genius of acknowledging the anxiety that could lead young people to follow entirely the wrong person or people is up there in subtle ways in this staging of HAIR. You can easily overlook it, but since so many of you are going to the show again and again I recommend you search it out, instead of worrying about whether you'll get a hug in seat X row Y. Look at Crissy shivering and desperate right alongside Dionne during "Aquarius." Look at the angry Tribe dude who, at best, will become an Iggy Pop or Alice Cooper, at worst, a Manson and no not Marilyn.

Of course, everybody's free to see the show they want to see, but I definitely think it's worth seeing the subtext so as to have a more complete experience. Not that there's anything wrong with being this generation's equivalent of the people who dressed up in poodle skirts and DAs to see the Rosie O'Donnell Grease revival several times.

Updated On: 8/9/09 at 11:26 AM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 11:30am

From that Times article I linked:

But that?s what those days were like. Dramatic, even monumental events whipped by so quickly that their meaning often seemed impossible to determine, and it could be that they have grown more complex over time. In a 1987 interview the singer Jackson Browne described how, as a 20-year-old on the Los Angeles music scene, he had heard about the ?sexually free? inhabitants of Charles Manson?s commune on the Spahn Ranch and the sense of ?tribal unity? there.

Ring any bells?

[CSonBroadway]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 11:41am

I am SO confused.

[yay_gerb]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 11:49am

for once..thank you namo. that article opened my mind up a bit. that is one thing i hated about the hippie culture...the outcome. if you went on to actually go to college or get a decent job you're considered a sell out. if your still a hippie, your a freak. i'd probably still be a hippie because i'm very stubborn.

from what i gather, the "manson family" took the message of being a hippie too far. being a hippie was about peace and love and standing up for what you believe in, and they obviously focused too much on the last one. there were different types of hippies and 2 different groups would be the violent and non-violent ones. and then there was manson's group who were past violet. killing your parents and blowing up the capitol building are acts of rage and revenge on the country and their parent's generation for not cooperating with the hippie's message. manson's group was a completely different type of group, i wouldn't call hippies. next time i see the show i'll try and put this all into perspective.

and for the record i knew you were talking about Charles Manson, i was just making a snotty remark because i read an article about Marilyn that day.

[TreyKenyon]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 11:49am

I think FindingNamo is trying to show that the whole hippie era isn't as sweet and innocent as HAIR portrays it and as we percieve it. We all kinda go ga-ga over this show, when it kinda glorifys hippies (who weren't always so great and did some pretty bad things). I don't agree with Namo's method of criticizing us for liking the show, but he/she has an interesting point.

[CSonBroadway]

Posted: 8/9/09 at 11:53am

Why would he criticize us for liking the show? He likes it too. It is in his avatar.