Sweeney Tanks in 2nd Week of Release- Page 2
Sweeney Tanks in 2nd Week of Release
#25burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 5:52pmI really wish they would stop doing musicals as a few screens for a few weeks and then wide release later. Just put it out in all theaters at one time.
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#25burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 5:52pm
Am I alone in hoping for a PG-13 video/DVD option? I truly wish that the blood/gore direction had NOT been taken. (NOT the forum here-I know...) I could have drummed up at least a dozen more ticket sales in my little world if the movie hadn't taken the R rating path.
I am convinced this movie would have done much better with a PG-13 rating.
**sigh**
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#27burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 5:53pmAlso the movie hasn't even opened overseas yet. Trust me, we have nothing to worry about financially as of right now.
Yes, but sometimes people have a third deeper layer thats the same as the first. Like pie. Dr. Horrible
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#28burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 5:53pmAlso the movie hasn't even opened overseas yet. Trust me, we have nothing to worry about financially as of right now.
Yes, but sometimes people have a third deeper layer thats the same as the first. Like pie. Dr. Horrible
#29burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:00pm
"I truly wish that the blood/gore direction had NOT been taken."
It's a musical about a barber who slits throats. What did you expect??
"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
#30burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:01pm
I truly wish that the blood/gore direction had NOT been taken.
The man slashes throats and kills people. What other direction should it have gone in?
ETA: Priest beat me to it. 
#31burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:03pmI didn't need to actually see the throats being slit on the big screen to get the idea of what was happening. I was hoping for the little red light to shine on the characters once they were killed off....
#32burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:03pm
Burton said to the studio heads that he would not even do the movie if it wasn't given an R rating. Thank god!
Sondheim also had said: "The bloodier, the better."
And by no means is this movie 'tanking'.
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"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana." GMarx
#33burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:06pm
i was hoping for the little red light to shine on the characters once they were killed off....
so this would mean that this post has had its throat slit by johnny depp?
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
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he was the gimmicky sort
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#34burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:07pm
Because abstract and theatrical is the way to go on film.
I don't typically go for blood and gore, but I felt Burton's handling of this was extremely effective. The blood itself didn't look look real enough to bother me, but as for service to the plot, showing it was the right kind of realism.
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#35burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:08pmI think it would have been a little on the lame side if it hadn't been as bloody/gorey as it was, and I probably would have been pretty disappointed, personally.
#36burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:09pmI normally hate bloody movies, but I couldn't see Sweeney being done in any other way on film.
I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.
#37burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:09pm
Obviously, you did not get at ALL the way Burton and his collaborators approached the material or what they were going for.
Without the blood, the movie would have lost a substantial amount of its power.
Not to mention that it is exactly what Sondheim wanted.
"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
Updated On: 12/30/07 at 06:09 PM
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
#38burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:11pmbut wouldn't it have been so much more powerful with some red lights? and maybe a synthesizer.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#39burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:11pmThey should've just filmed the John Doyle production and stuck it in theaters, you guys. That would've gone over so well with the general movie-going population.
#40burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:12pm
why did they feel the need to cheapen the material by making a movie at all?
clearly this is all about sondheim's legendary greed.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
Updated On: 12/30/07 at 06:12 PM
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#41burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:13pmObviously I am kidding about the light (funny, Papa), I just don't think people should complain about low ticket sales. Combining blood, gore, and a musical makes for a smaller target audience. My two younger kids know the songs from this musical, but they were not going to the theater to see it with me.
#42burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:20pm
Gosh, that Sondheim. Greedy!
Yes, it makes for a smaller audience, but I applaud Burton for approaching this with artistic integrity -- a virtue that is shrinking in the film industry. He told the studio point-blank that this was going to be rated R or it wasn't happening, and he got what he wanted. Frankly, I don't think it's a story for kids, period. What, if you didn't actually see the blood, you'd think it was okay to expose small children to a story ABOUT killing people and putting them into pies? Burton should have abandoned his intention to do right by Sondheim's work so his movie would be child-friendly? Sweeney is not for little kids, period. And I'm sorry, but I'm glad he didn't back down on his integrity for the sake of little kids.
#43burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:28pmI heartily agree, Emcee!
"It's not so much do what you like, as it is that you like what you do." SS
"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana." GMarx
"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana." GMarx
#44burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:35pmI'm not trying to act all know-it-all, but as a working film writer and producer in Los Angeles, I can pretty well guarantee that the studio is happy with the money that "Sweeney Todd" has made so far and the future prospects look good. It's not a youth-oriented subject, doesn't have any hot teen stars or showy, sexy musical numbers. It's a solid piece doing solid numbers and, as Variety says, will have a stellar life on DVD. (And as a WGA member, that hurts to say until I and my posse get our fair share).
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#45burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:41pmyeah the subject matter is definatly not kid friendly, unlike Hairspray and Enchanted. If they hadn't included the blood and gore, the violence would've looked Disney-fied (where people get hit with arrows and guns and knives, and then in the next shot the wounds are magically gone).
"You drank a charm to kill John Proctor's wife! You drank a charm to kill Goody Proctor!" - Betty Parris to Abigail Williams in Arthur Miller's The Crucible
#46burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 6:50pm
Perhaps you should change the misleading title of this thread. I know it gets people's attention, but it is inaccurate.
#47burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 7:27pmSeriously, it's a total falsity. If it tanked (which any sensible analysis would say it didn't), it tanked in its first weekend. Its second weekend was nearly identical.
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#48burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 7:33pmNot to mention it's not even playing everywhere; it's not coming to theatres around me until January.
#49burton and depp have ruined my glorious hbc
Posted: 12/30/07 at 7:43pmI am not talking about young kids. I will not be taking my 11-12 year old to see it. As a matter of personal preference, I wish it had been less gory....I am fine being all alone in my preference, and I am not here to dispute artistic interpretations. I was merely commenting that the movie would make more money with a PG-13 rating.
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