Still not on TDF, which is baffling. One would think they’d aim to pack the house.
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Why would they go on TDF? The first week of grosses were quite good.
Cockeyed Optimist said: "Branford Ct does Broadway Nov 12! $225 per person, includes round trip transportation, a ticket to the Queen of Versailles, and a talk back with executive producer and Branford resident Greg Nobile. Wow, what a deal!"
Girl - read the room.
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Auggie27 said: "Still not on TDF, which is baffling. One would think they’d aim to pack the house."
They reported 100% capacity in their first week.
Point taken. I was addressing advance sales, but clearly the curiosity is filling the seats.
Saw last night's performance. I want to write something more in-depth later, but I must say that I was blown away by this show. I think Schwartz's score is exciting, the book incredibly pointed and scathing, and Michael Arden's direction and the performance he got out of Cheno to be a revelation. All of the folks whose takeaway was that the show is nothing more than "out of touch/pro MAGA/billionaire-worship" genuinely concern me regarding the state of intelligence and media literacy in this current age.
Quick observation: I’m a 29-year old leftist. The other younger-skewing folks near me seemingly loved the show as much as I did and very much picked up on the eat-the-rich message; however, there were some UWS-old-money seemingly-liberal type Boomers near us who were all very much displeased and bored by the end of the show. I found that to be fascinating.
First few weeks grosses are good but highly comped and discounted.
marytylermoore said: "Quick observation: I’m a 29-year old leftist. The other younger-skewing folks near me seemingly loved the show as much as I did and very much picked up on the eat-the-rich message; however, there were some UWS-old-money seemingly-liberal type Boomers near us who were all very much displeased and bored by the end of the show. I found that to be fascinating."
I’m not that much older than you (31) and quite liberal, and I would genuinely love to know where in this was there an “eat the rich” message. If anything, I only saw a half-assed attempt at a parable about hubris undercut by the fact that she ultimately is rewarded (mostly) the house she wants.
“Quick observation: I’m a 29-year old leftist. The other younger-skewing folks near me seemingly loved the show as much as I did and very much picked up on the eat-the-rich message; however, there were some UWS-old-money seemingly-liberal type Boomers near us who were all very much displeased and bored by the end of the show. I found that to be fascinating."
I’m just curious: where did you find the “eat the rich” message in a show about a big MAGA donor/supporter and her husband erecting an actual palatial trophy to themselves with the money they made out of timeshare schemes? I haven’t seen the show, so I’m curious to buy a ticket if this show truly offers more than MAGA pageantry.
quizking101 said: "marytylermoore said: "Quick observation: I’m a 29-year old leftist. The other younger-skewing folks near me seemingly loved the show as much as I did and very much picked up on the eat-the-rich message; however, there were some UWS-old-money seemingly-liberal type Boomers near us who were all very much displeased and bored by the end of the show. I found that to be fascinating."
I’m not that much older than you (31) and quite liberal, and I would genuinely love to know where in this was there an “eat the rich” message. If anything, I only saw a half-assed attempt at a parable about hubris undercut by the fact that she ultimately is rewarded(mostly) the house she wants."
Uh, just about how the entire show portrayed her as a truly despicable person. The journal-publishing scene really drove that point home for me, personally.
Also, having Kristin framed not once but twice under the blade of a literal guillotine felt like a pretty obvious moment of this message. And also the scene where they graphically shoot the royal court of France/Marie Antoinette downstage as the completed mansion is revealed upstage.
I did not see her being awarded the home she wants. I saw her being punished by the sin of her greed. She makes it very clear that the house will not make her happy and that she will spend her entire life building the house due to her bottomless greed. She's left alone without anyone who truly loves her and has thrown money at her grief and refuses to accept that it's her greed that's put her where she is. And still she sings about how "next year" all her problems will be solved and thus the cycle of her greed and the harm it causes to others (her daughter, her niece, her nanny, her chauffeur) continues.
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I'm sorry, it's giving shill. Certainly don't want to discount your experience - if it's genuine. But I did take a look to see that you've been posting positively in favor of the show since March. If it really worked for you, that's great. It doesn't change the chorus of people here who feel the opposite about the show.
violetsandroses said: "I'm sorry, it's giving shill. Certainly don't want to discount your experience - if it's genuine. But I did take a look to see that you've been posting positively in favor of the show since March. If it really worked for you, that's great. It doesn't change the chorus of people here who feel the opposite about the show."
LMAO I promise I'm no shill but I do love Stephen Schwartz and Michael Arden (I saw OOTI probably five or six times) so I've been very much looking forward to this show and was so relieved when I actually liked it. Probably confirmation-bias as I went into this wanting to like it (and I did!).
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nice spread on the Cheno!
https://nypost.com/2025/10/15/lifestyle/kristin-chenoweth-rules-broadway-in-the-queen-of-versailles/
This one is a turkey. No need to even go into detail. The audience was literally grumbling. This will join the list of Moose Murderers and Into The Light. Catch it while you can if you want to be able to say you were there.
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HOW LONG WAS INTERMISSION?
SmokeyLady said: "This one is a turkey. No need to even go into detail. The audience was literally grumbling. This will join the list of Moose Murderers and Into The Light. Catch it while you can if you want to be able to say you were there."
marytylermoore said: "Saw last night's performance. I want to write something more in-depth later, but I must say that I was blown away by this show. I think Schwartz's score is exciting, the book incredibly pointed and scathing, and Michael Arden's direction and the performance he got out of Cheno to be a revelation. All of the folks whose takeaway was that the show is nothing more than "out of touch/pro MAGA/billionaire-worship" genuinely concern me regarding the state of intelligence and media literacy in this current age.
Quick observation: I’m a 29-year old leftist. The other younger-skewing folks near me seemingly loved the show as much as I did and very much picked up on the eat-the-rich message; however, there were some UWS-old-money seemingly-liberal type Boomers near us who were all very much displeased and bored by the end of the show. I found that to be fascinating."
How do you possibly know what the young leftists and the older Boomers around you thought of the show?? Were you conducting exit interviews?
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Matt Rogers said: "marytylermoore said: "Saw last night's performance. I want to write something more in-depth later, but I must say that I was blown away by this show. I think Schwartz's score is exciting, the book incredibly pointed and scathing, and Michael Arden's direction and the performance he got out of Cheno to be a revelation. All of the folks whose takeaway was that the show is nothing more than "out of touch/pro MAGA/billionaire-worship" genuinely concern me regarding the state of intelligence and media literacy in this current age.
Quick observation: I’m a 29-year old leftist. The other younger-skewing folks near me seemingly loved the show as much as I did and very much picked up on the eat-the-rich message; however, there were some UWS-old-money seemingly-liberal type Boomers near us who were all very much displeased and bored by the end of the show. I found that to be fascinating."
How do you possibly know what the young leftists and the older Boomers around you thought of the show?? Were you conducting exit interviews?"
It must take a special sort of skill level to not only know what everyone else in the audience is thinking -- but to also break those thoughts down by age, address and political party! Kudos to you MTM!!
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JSquared2 said: "Matt Rogers said: "marytylermoore said: "Saw last night's performance. I want to write something more in-depth later, but I must say that I was blown away by this show. I think Schwartz's score is exciting, the book incredibly pointed and scathing, and Michael Arden's direction and the performance he got out of Cheno to be a revelation. All of the folks whose takeaway was that the show is nothing more than "out of touch/pro MAGA/billionaire-worship" genuinely concern me regarding the state of intelligence and media literacy in this current age.
Quick observation: I’m a 29-year old leftist. The other younger-skewing folks near me seemingly loved the show as much as I did and very much picked up on the eat-the-rich message; however, there were some UWS-old-money seemingly-liberal type Boomers near us who were all very much displeased and bored by the end of the show. I found that to be fascinating."
How do you possibly know what the young leftists and the older Boomers around you thought of the show?? Were you conducting exit interviews?"
It must take a special sortof skill level to not only know what everyone else in the audience is thinking -- but to also break those thoughts down by age, address and political party! Kudos to you MTM!!"
Wow! MTM really has some of y'all shook! All they did was offer a dissenting opinion (and did a surprisingly good job of backing it up).
Not everyone one will experience theater the same way you do. I find varied responses interesting. A different opinion isn't a threat to your own.
MysteriousLady said: "JSquared2 said: "Matt Rogers said: "marytylermoore said: "Saw last night's performance. I want to write something more in-depth later, but I must say that I was blown away by this show. I think Schwartz's score is exciting, the book incredibly pointed and scathing, and Michael Arden's direction and the performance he got out of Cheno to be a revelation. All of the folks whose takeaway was that the show is nothing more than "out of touch/pro MAGA/billionaire-worship" genuinely concern me regarding the state of intelligence and media literacy in this current age.
Quick observation: I’m a 29-year old leftist. The other younger-skewing folks near me seemingly loved the show as much as I did and very much picked up on the eat-the-rich message; however, there were some UWS-old-money seemingly-liberal type Boomers near us who were all very much displeased and bored by the end of the show. I found that to be fascinating."
How do you possibly know what the young leftists and the older Boomers around you thought of the show?? Were you conducting exit interviews?"
It must take a special sortof skill level to not only know what everyone else in the audience is thinking -- but to also break those thoughts down by age, address and political party! Kudos to you MTM!!"
Wow! MTM really has some of y'all shook! All they did was offer a dissenting opinion (and did a surprisingly good job of backing it up).
Not everyone one will experience theater the same way you do. I find varied responses interesting. A different opinion isn't a threat to your own."
She doesn’t have me “shook” at all. I don’t care if she loved it or hated it. I’m just trying to find out how she magically knew exactly what all the people around her thought of it. Was she handing out questionnaires?
Ah, the beauty of a rush ticket for a guilt-free exit after 75 long minutes of the QOV tonight.
Picking up on the post that responded to my noticing an absence of TDF sales: I stand corrected. I saw the BO numbers for last week. Impressive attendance for the first half a week. As many remind us, in the new climate - seats purchased closer to performances - advance sales are not the indicators that they once were. If this show sustains comparable numbers for 3-4 weeks, we'll have a better read. But clearly, it's not the DOA show many predicted. It's a question mark.
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Auggie27 said: "Picking up on the post that responded to my noticing anabsence of TDF sales: I stand corrected. I saw the BO numbers for last week. Impressive attendance for the first half a week. As many remind us, in the new climate - seats purchased closer to performances - advance sales are not the indicators that they once were. If this show sustains comparable numbers for 3-4 weeks, we'll have a better read. But clearly, it's not the DOA show many predicted. It's a question mark."
I always enjoy reading your posts. Believe me, I was shocked at how well their first week went, given all the negativity online.
Sadly, my hunch is that this success won't last very long. KC has enough fans to get people in the door for a few weeks, but WOM will probably kill it. Which sucks because the last thing Broadway needs is another expensive disaster.
But adapting this documentary into a musical was a bad idea and that's just baked into its DNA, I fear.
marytylermoore said: "Uh, just about how the entire show portrayed her as a truly despicable person. The journal-publishing scene really drove that point home for me, personally.
Also, having Kristin framed not once but twice under the blade of a literal guillotine felt like a pretty obvious moment of this message. And also the scene where they graphically shoot the royal court of France/Marie Antoinette downstage as the completed mansion is revealed upstage.
I did not see her being awarded the home she wants. I saw her being punished by the sin of her greed. She makes it very clear that the house will not make her happy and that she will spend her entire life building the house due to her bottomless greed. She's left alone without anyone who truly loves her and has thrown money at her grief and refuses to accept that it's her greed that's put her where she is. And still she sings about how "next year" all her problems will be solved and thus the cycle of her greed and the harm it causes to others (her daughter, her niece, her nanny, her chauffeur) continues."
FWIW, I completely agree with your assessment of the show, and took away the same message that you did. Jackie gets everything she wanted with her home, but is ultimately left an empty and lonely shell of a woman.
bwayphreak234 said: ", but is ultimately left an empty and lonely shell of a woman.
I should be so lucky to be left empty & lonely like that.
inception said: "bwayphreak234 said: ", but is ultimately left an empty and lonely shell of a woman.
I should be so lucky to be left empty & lonely like that.”
Exactly. Try making a difference on this planet with your hoards of cash instead of wasting it on a mansion and then maybe you’ll have an interesting story worthy of being musicalized.
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