The Producers and The Oscars

[hateobnoxiousteens]

Posted: 12/27/05 at 11:22pm

It will only get one pity nomination if it is lucky and that is for O. Song. But hey look, Rent isn't getting any. Anyone sane out there that agrees with this?

[roquat]

Posted: 12/27/05 at 11:25pm

You're talking about Golden Globes or Oscars? I wouldn't write "Rent" off yet from Oscars, especially for stuff like Best Supportings...The competition is REALLY weak this year. Most of the big ambitious stuff crashed or had disappointing returns.

[jasonf]

Posted: 12/27/05 at 11:26pm

I think it's really going to depend on the Golden Globes, actually - and how it does in the next two weeks. If it gets some awards there, and box office picks up, it has a shot at a couple of nominations (for Lane, Ferrel, and POSSIBLY Best Movie). The reason the acting awards are unlikely though has nothing at all to do with the talent - comedies SO seldom win Oscars, that they're automatically overlooked. I do think if the academy chooses to put any comedy in as a nomination, this is the one surest bet....

[broadway86]

Posted: 12/27/05 at 11:26pm

I'd consider Rent and The Producers do be about equal. Both are seriously flawed, but entertaining. However, the performances in Rent worked better onscreen.

It's fitting that they got similar reactions from critics.

[ljay889]

Posted: 12/27/05 at 11:31pm

Do you really think RENT which got zero GG nominations, has a chance of supporting acting nominations??

As it has been said since day one, if any of the actors in THE PRODUCERS have a chance of an Oscar nom, it will be Nathan without a doubt.

I just really feel THE PRODUCERS has a MUCH better shot of acting noms opposed to RENT.
Updated On: 12/27/05 at 11:31 PM

[bwayondabrain]

Posted: 12/27/05 at 11:36pm

i saw in i think usa today that rent and the producers might get best song/music nominations for oscars, but walk the line will prob win....

yeah, just what i picked up from the oscar article

[hateobnoxiousteens]

Posted: 12/27/05 at 11:37pm

sorry double post

Updated On: 12/27/05 at 11:37 PM

[hateobnoxiousteens]

Posted: 12/27/05 at 11:38pm

Although I loved Rent to a degree on film, it's lack of gaining a nomination at the Golden Globes which has a Musical category basically puts it out of the running for ANY oscar nods, and the Producers is in the same boat the HFPA automatically noms a musical if one is out that year, hell look they even gave em to POTO, but the competition this year is not weak it is fierce, from Good Night, Good Luck, North Country, Syriana, Munich, Capote, Crash, Transamerica, The Constant Gardener, Match Point, A History of Violence, Proof, Memoirs of a Geisha, Walk The Line and the one that will sweep of course, Brokeback Mountain. Not enough room for the Producers and Rent.

[roquat]

Posted: 12/27/05 at 11:50pm

Not seeing a lot of Best Supporting Actress possibles on that list, though...Maybe "Crash" and "Geisha" and that's it. And the critical hostility towards "Geisha" makes that doubtful.

[jonartdesigns]

Posted: 12/27/05 at 11:50pm

my take:
the producers will get a healthy ammount of noms and not really win too many. Rent will net at most one (Dawson or Martin in supporting).

Possible Producers Nominations:
Screenplay, hell the original won the oscar for this
Lane
Ferrell- he could win this in an upset
Thurman (much like the entire cast of chicago (save gere) got nominated)
Original Song

[hateobnoxiousteens]

Posted: 12/27/05 at 11:55pm

to roquat: Supporting Actresses - Frances McDormand in North Country, Michelle Williams in Brokeback Mountain, Rachel Weisz in The Constant Gardener, immediately pop into mind.

[Jon]

Posted: 12/27/05 at 11:57pm

Possible Supporting Actress noms:

Michelle Williams - BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
Frances McDormand - NORTH COUNTRY
Thandie Newton - CRASH
Sandra Bullock - CRASH
Shirley Maclaine - IN HER SHOES
Ginnifer Goodwin - WALK THE LINE
Michelle Yeoh - GEISHA
Catherine Keener - CAPOTE

[twotrey]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 12:05am

>>>Not seeing a lot of Best Supporting Actress possibles on that list, though...<<<

Well, there is a pool of more than 5 possibles that I would think take precedence over any Rent actresses, for example:

Maria Bello, A History of Violence
Brenda Blethyn, Pride & Prejudice
Gong Li, Memoirs of a Geisha
Scarlett Johansson, Match Point
Catherine Keener, Capote
Frances McDormand, North Country
Thandie Newton, Crash
Rachel Weisz, The Constant Gardener
Michelle Williams, Brokeback Mountain

...and that's not counting potential "bandwagon" nominations that may come from especially popular choices (e.g. Ginnifer Goodwin in Walk the Line--not a contender on her own perhaps, but strength for the movie as a whole could carry her into a nomination; ditto Anne Hathaway in Brokeback). Also, don't forget that voters are sensitive to campaigning, and I'm guessing Sony would put their bucks toward Ms. Gong--who won raves despite her film's overall mediocre critical reception--over anyone involved in Rent, any sort of campaigning which at this point would just be an expense unlikely to yield any results.
Updated On: 12/28/05 at 12:05 AM

[YankeeGal#24]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 12:08am

No matter how good a film is, comedies rarely win at the Oscars. They may win for costume design, song, or screenplay, but they're usually left out of the major awards.

[hateobnoxiousteens]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 12:10am

"Possible Producers Nominations:
Screenplay, hell the original won the oscar for this
Lane
Ferrell- he could win this in an upset
Thurman (much like the entire cast of chicago (save gere) got nominated)
Original Song"

This im sorry to say is a pipe dream. Also, the original movie is quite different than this new one.

[twotrey]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 12:14am

But yeah, back to topic, original song is the only real shoo-in for The Producers, and that'll probably be it.

>>>I wouldn't write "Rent" off yet from Oscars, especially for stuff like Best Supportings...The competition is REALLY weak this year. Most of the big ambitious stuff crashed or had disappointing returns.<<<

...and I'd count Rent among these high-profile crashes/disappointments, especially considering how big of a push the studio put behind it as a potential hit *and* awards contender.

[jonartdesigns]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 12:22am

hateobnoxiousteens- i never said any of them (save ferrell) could win, i just said they could possibly be nominated, if you want to hear a pipe dream do a search there was a thread sometime back who listed the best supporting actor category as;
wilson heredia
jesse l. martin
taye diggs
will ferrell
and i believe Gary Beach or Roger Bart

[hateobnoxiousteens]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 12:25am

Let's not forget that "Rent" basically pulled advertising from major cities very early on due to swarm of bad reviews (I know there were alot of good ones too, but people tend to remember the bad over the good) and lack of box office numbers. They are not pushing for awards, they are hoping to make the money in DVD sales (hence the quick release of Feb 21) and possible international markets.

[hateobnoxiousteens]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 12:27am

jonartdesigns - i only quoted you about the noms, and that is a pipe dream just as is the other thread you mention.

[twotrey]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 12:31am

>>> They are not pushing for awards, they are hoping to make the money in DVD sales (hence the quick release of Feb 21) and possible international markets.<<<

There's still some token pushing going on, but it's all stuff that was already in place before the worm turned, if you will: awards consideration screenings are still being held, and DVD screeners were already sent out. But I doubt there will be any more trade ads--Sony more than likely use those ad buys for Geisha.

[twotrey]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 12:31am

sorry, double post Updated On: 12/28/05 at 12:31 AM

[hateobnoxiousteens]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 12:39am

tworey- I definitely agree with you, Sony has and will definitely send "For Your Consideration" DVD screeners for Rent, they have to give it a shot, as will The Producers.

[twotrey]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 12:56am

Academy members already received their Rent DVD's. And of course Universal will send out The Producers; while the studio is spread a bit thin with a number of items in play, they definitely have more support for the film than say Sony for Rent--at this stage, at least. (plus they gotta milk those GG nods for all they're worth)

[SamIAm]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 9:50am

The Song "Nothing Like a Show on Broadway"
Lane for best actor
Ferrell, Beach and Bart for supporting actor
and Thurman for best supporting actress

Banners on many entertainment sites and on Variety

Golden Globes are usually a decent (if not totally dependable) predictor.

[Pippin]

Posted: 12/28/05 at 10:45am

neither of these shows will get any nominations in any of the "big" catagories. they are not oscar material. I am not blindly bashing becuase I saw both and enjoyed both (producers over rent) but they can't compare to the array of great films this year, and they also don't compare to the greatness of Chicago. if the Academy nominated them, it would be like taking a step back in forms of quality.