The future of set/props from Phantom

I’m curious what will be happening to the set and prop pieces for Broadways phantom. If anyone knows or has a contact to purchase something I am interested

I would love to know what will happen with the masks or music box or chandelier or elephant. The boats or labras

Also what piece would you most want

I suspect most of them will make their way to Mackintosh's storehouses. If he brings his scaled-down version there will be a use for a fair number of the props. Very few of the London ones made found their way to the public when the original London one closed. The lucky ones were those who raided the skips outside the Pantages when Livent's production in Toronto went bust.

If one accepts the prevailing expectation that the closing is a prelude to a scaled down reopening then one would also assume that they will simply store anything they remove that might be of future utility.

I’ve got the stained glass windows from behind Norma’s staircase 👻 bought them at the Broadway flea market a year after “sunset” closed.


i always say dumpster dive after a show closes

TheatreMonkey said: "I call dibs on the "music box, in the shape of a monkey"!"

I bet you have been waiting patiently since 1/1/06 to have the opportunity to post that.

Fosse76 said: "TheatreMonkey said: "I call dibs on the "music box, in the shape of a monkey"!"

But it's not in the shape of a monkey. It's "in the shape of a barrel-organ" with an attached "figure of a monkey." "

Touché ! It's been awhile since my last visit to the Opera house!

Unfortunately I had the misfortune of seeing the phantom in London last week. I walked our feeling as if my family had died. It was so sad. So ugly. So terrible. It was like community theatre and just terrible. Even the costume fabrics look cheap. Like polyester and industrial warehouse. There was no elegance

I want Lot 666 very badly.

Phantom4ever said: "I wonder if the Shuberts will keep something in the building as a memento from the 35 year run. The Nederlander (Oriental) Theater in Chicago keeps a small poster in the lobby to recognize the multi year run that Wicked had there 2005-2009. Maybe one of the window card posters in the lobby or a Phantom mask somewhere."

Maybe a plaque embedded in the sidewalk out front, like the one for Les Miserables in front of the Imperial.

Updated On: 10/11/22 at 03:41 PM

My apologies. I should have been more clear. Let me try again.

Since Bjornson's estate is so invested in her name that they took the step of trademarking her name, that suggests that they would also want to/attempt to/go to court for the right to/ have a say in what happens to her Phantom sets and drapes. I'm not saying that her estate 100% gets to take what they want. Obviously CM and ALW actually own them. But I bet they have some say in what happens too.

Phantom4ever said: "My apologies. I should have been more clear. Let me try again.

Since Bjornson's estate is so invested in her name that they took the step of trademarking her name, that suggests that they would also want to/attempt to/go to court for the right to/ have a say in what happens to her Phantom sets and drapes. I'm not saying that her estate 100% gets to take what they want. Obviously CM and ALW actually own them. But I bet they have some say in what happens too."

Unfortunately, you are still not clear. Having your name trademarked does not mean you own or in any way control something of your manufacture. (And in this case, of course, there was no trademark of the name at the time the designs were made, bought, and paid for, so it would be irrelevant in any event.) If I buy a pair of Gucci loafers, the estate of Guccio Gucci has no say if I decide to trash them. Bjornson's estate indeed has "no say." And as Fosse76 says above, in any case, "That's not how trademarks work." Everything within those four walls belongs to the production.

Phantom4ever said: "If you buy a paid of Gucci loafers, does Gucci need to pay you every week for the next 35 years? That’s a ridiculous analogy. And awkward since you had the nerve to call me unclear lol.

and yes for the third time ugh lol. I know all of the stuff she designed inside the Majestic belongs to the producers (duh?). But I was meekly trying to suggest that perhaps somehow her estate will ask or make arrangements for or purchase or whatever else they can do to obtain some of the materials that Maria purchased. I should have been more clear in saying that her team can’t just waltz into the theater and grab whatever stuff they want but I guess I thought that went without saying but I guess it didn’t.
If it’s still not clear and y’all still want to come for me with trite comments or odd analogies then have at it : )"

I am not trying to come for you; I am trying to help you understand something. Do you not want to understand? I ask that honestly, because it really seems you may not. Could her estate ask to buy something that's being disposed of when the show closes? Sure. Just as lots of actors ask to buy something they wore in a show (and not infrequently get it for free).

The fact that she got a weekly royalty is irrelevant to this discussion.

Phantom4ever said: "So for the 4th time: I bet the Bjornson estate will want some of the stuff she created inside the Majestic. Boom."

What you said:

"Maria Bjornson's name is now trademarked in the Phantom playbill, so I can't see her estate letting her creations get thrown onto 44th Street to the highest bidder."

"Since Bjornson's estate is so invested in her name that they took the step of trademarking her name, that suggests that they would also want to/attempt to/go to court for the right to/ have a say in what happens to her Phantom sets and drapes."

Also, I think you severely misapprehend what this "estate" is and why they trademarked the name not to mention what the trademark provides, but ok I'm done.