The wave does not belong in the theater!- Page 3

[liotte]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:05am

I know I won't get 100% support, and that things don't always go my way and that people do not agree with me. That's what makes this message board such fun.

Jose', I don't have an issue with the show, I enjoyed it. If kids did the wave at a Yankees game, I wouldn't mind. It's just a matter of appropriate behavior for a theater. Yes, this show has a more casual atmosphere than most Broadway shows, but it is still the theater and people should treat this as they would any other show on Broadway.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:09am

"If kids did the wave at a Yankees game, I wouldn't mind."

You're obviously a person with extreme control issues. Ya see, it doesn't matter if you "wouldn't mind," it's something you have no control over.

"Yes, this show has a more casual atmosphere than most Broadway shows, but it is still the theater and people should treat this as they would any other show on Broadway."

Could you please draw a map of the above paragraph to explain how you started out where you did and so quickly completely contradicted that by the end?

Thanking you in advance.

[liotte]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:14am

It's not a control issue whatsoever, I don't know what you are talking about there.

Spelling Bee, based on the nature of the theater looking like a school gym, and the lobby looking like a school with pictures, lockers, etc, gives an impression of a more casual atmosphere than something with big fancy chandeliers, a velvet curtain, and extravagant decorations. Whether a fancy theater or one that looks like a school, they are both Broadway theaters and should be treated with the same respect. I'm sure if you saw a bunch of teens doing the wave at Phantom of the Opera (just a random example), you would find it inappropriate.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:17am

No, I would never BE at Phantom of the Opera.

And if you can't see that you have major control issues you are clearly somebody with no self awareness at all. You should have stormed to the box office, demanded your money back ("They're doin' THE WAVE in there!"), and gone to the library where you could enjoy shushing whisperers

[dreaminaret]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:19am

Zoneface - I agree... while it is not 100% appropriate, it's a fun show with plenty of audience participation and if it's before the show, what's the harm? I mean, for shows like Phantom, the audience is usually uptight and that stuff wouldn't fly, but in general it's rather permissible for the Spelling Bee audience to come in jeans, try and catch the juiceboxes, etc...

BSO - in terms of the jeans thing... true. and i'm sure that someone like liotte who goes 100x a week to spelling bee doesn't wear her finest attire to every performance. in fact, sitting next to someone who saw the bee a million times would bother me much more than a group of hs kids doing the wave... at least they wouldn't be annoying throughout the show like "so on 11/8/05 deborah craig did _____ and celia said ____ and they're all my best of friends"

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:19am

Better yet, you should have waved back and sat back and enjoyed yourself.

Just think the Wave made that performance of BEE different that all the others you've seen. Now, isn't that special? Isn't that the experience of "live" theatre?

[Pippin]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:20am

I think the difference is in the layouts of the theatre. in most broadway theatres, such as phantom's theatre, all audience members face the same way, and half the fun of doing the wave is doing it in an arena type setting, which the circle in the square is. there would be no point in doing the wave in other theatres, becuase 1. it would last 3 seconds a pop, and 2. you wouldn't be able to see anyone else doing it.

since the circle in the square theater is designed like an arena, and may remind some less savvy theatre-goers unlike yourself of a concert or a baseball game, it's just innocent fun, but it's understandable fun.

did it ruin the experience of the show for you? becuase it shouldn't have, but from your thread, it sounds as if they ruined your entire night.

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:20am

Namo, you really are so much better at this that I am.

[liotte]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:23am

Namo and dreaminaret, for people who have never met me, you are quick to judge who I am.
Namo, I don't go to libraries, I prefer places like Six Flags that are noisy, and people can run around yelling whatever they want. I think that going to the theater should have a certain amount of reverence, and those kids tonight didn't have any idea that they were at a Broadway show. It was just inappropriate, in my opinion.
dreaminaret, I have never claimed any of those people were my friends in any way whatsoever, I have never referred to a single person in that show (or any show) as a "friend" of mine. And I don't talk during shows, I find that rude.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:25am

You're right Jose, isn't this the type of thing that the one show fixated fans are always tripping overthemselves to say "I wish I had been there to see that!"? Ya know, like when Idina dropped the mirror! OMG, that was AWESOME.

[liotte]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:26am

This had nothing to do with the actual show except that it happened to take place there. The show itself was great as always.

[aspiringactress]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:28am

This thread is sad. Everyone needs to get a grip. Some kids did the wave, Liotte didn't like it, some of you sympathize with that, and others don't. There is no need to make comments about her self awareness, or call her out for being friendly with cast members. Furthermore, no one has reason to believe that audience members who sit next to Liotte are aware of how many times she has seen the show, because she does not get up before the show beins to announce it to people, and is not the type to talk during a show about her relationships with cast members.

[dreaminaret]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:28am

liotte, dont you post after EVERY show on the spelling bee thread with whatever new line comes that probably no one else would have even noticed?

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:28am

then why are you so outraged, if your experience of the show was not impeded in anyway then why the issue?

[aspiringactress]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:30am

dream - Why is that a problem? Some of us LIKE hearing what goes on in individual shows.

[liotte]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:30am

dream, yes I post in a thread about Spelling Bee. The people who read that thread are interested to know what new lines are, so I write them, as do many others who see the show. If you don't care about new lines in Spelling Bee or about the show, don't open a thread called "Spelling Bee Love".

And I wasn't posting about the show, the only thing I mentioned about Spelling Bee was that that is where it took place. The show was great. The wave was the only problem I had.

[dreaminaret]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:32am

ETA: i like the spelling bee, but have better things to do in my life than see it more than twice.

Updated On: 4/9/06 at 12:32 AM

[liotte]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:35am

Sorry you are poor and cannot afford to go to the theater often. Stop being jealous that I go so much and get a job so you can see shows often too, if that's why you are complaining.

And if you want to talk about Rent and seeing a show multiple times, try the addicts over there, many of the rentheads (original rentheads, not the new kids like you that claim to be rentheads) have seen the show over 100 times.

Edit: Oh dream, put back your original post instead of this new edited nicer version. That was so much more fun.
Oh, here it is: "oh yeah, i forgot some people thought it was normal for a random person to see a show more times than a leading actor's nuclear family combined. if i had a dollar for every time one of the addicts from the sb thread saw the show, then i'd be able to afford the rent benefit. easily."
Updated On: 4/9/06 at 12:35 AM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:36am

"...no one has reason to believe that audience members who sit next to Liotte are aware of how many times she has seen the show..."

Oh but can't you just guess that they DO? I mean, we've all been around the single show freaks who laugh a half second too early at the regular jokes, who GUFFAW to acknowledge ever milisecond improv that a performer slips in, who claps a little too early and otherwise behaves in such a way as to telegraph, "I'm a regular here. They all know me!"

Look, Liotte knows EXACTLY how the show is supposed to go and is understandably upset that some NEW PEOPLE came in and did something that, to her way of thinking, was not approved. We can just hope that in the future, a cast member will start a Wave that will be taken up by the audience and Liotte will be the first out of her seat. Because, you know, there's room for improv there.

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:36am

Liotte, when you say, this had nothing to do with the actual show except that it happened to take place there, that indicates, to me at least, that you have little understanding what theatre is. For someone who prides themselves on their repeated viewings of the same shows, you appear to be completely disconnected from the fact that the audience is part of the experience of theatre, whether the curtain is up or down. What happens in the theatre is theatre.

One would think that you would have been overjoyed that this particular BEE audience was so attuned to, and excited over, what they were about to see that they were transported out of the Circle In The Square and into their own gymnasium(s).

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:39am

"Sorry you are poor and cannot afford to go to the theater often. Stop being jealous that I go so much and get a job so you can see shows often too, if that's why you are complaining."

Umm, yeah, because that made sense.


wow, you really are just completely clueless aren't you?

[liotte]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:39am

"Oh but can't you just guess that they DO? I mean, we've all been around the single show freaks who laugh a half second too early at the regular jokes, who GUFFAW to acknowledge ever milisecond improv that a performer slips in, who claps a little too early and otherwise behaves in such a way as to telegraph, "I'm a regular here. They all know me!" "

That is just not accurate at all. You can ask ANY of the cast members from that show, and they will tell you that I do not react in any way that you just mentioned.

And Jose', I don't know those kids, neither do you, but you cannot assume that they did the wave because they were excited for the show. They may have just been bored and entertaining themselves. Kids do that a lot.

[dreaminaret]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:40am

"Sorry you are poor and cannot afford to go to the theater often. Stop being jealous that I go so much and get a job so you can see shows often too, if that's why you are complaining. "

Liotte: I work 3 jobs for a total of 50 hrs/wk in addition to taking a full college courseload. But I'd much rather go to a show once every month or two and spend my money on paying off undergrad loans, spending my free time doing work so that I can maintain the merit scholarships I got for most of my grad school tuition for next year, and making sure that when I'm in grad school I'll have all of my living expenses covered without having to work my ass off. So yes, I could spend an extra $100 a week on shows, but that would get me nowhere.

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:40am

Liotte, when you posted the following to dreaminaret, Sorry you are poor and cannot afford to go to the theater often. Stop being jealous that I go so much and get a job so you can see shows often too, I realized what a smug, cruel and insensitive person can be. Shame on you.


p.s. I'm not the least bit surprised you spend such a huge part of your life in the dark with make believe characters. That's a cruel statement and I admit it, but frankly you deserve it.
Updated On: 4/9/06 at 12:40 AM

[aspiringactress]

Posted: 4/9/06 at 12:41am

Namo - I can guess whatever I want. That does not make it valid in an argument.

::I'm really not trying to make enemies. Don't hate me::