Times Sq/Subway Safety... Where are the Canadian Mounties to Rescue Us?

Fear of the hassles/crime in the subway is real. Even the walk to Port Authority post Springsteen was a gauntlet of panhandlers that I willfully gave dollars to feeling that would assure safe passage. Too many news articles re: "crime in NYC." This article, concerning.

Disney got on Guiliani back then to clean up TS. Can use that effort again. Where is the B'way League? Got tkts to Brian Stokes Mitchell at Linc Ctr, but subway the turnoff. Uber, the MTA alternative.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/19/opinion/nyc-subway-crime.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqohkT1UaCibSRdkhrxqAwv7ey_knm3XhJTnQQixDyulTA5SF_w2FQ5tfUOYJ_mbRQs5dYvhoTeZuz-RbMgthRVOjqMCKldFaLntp7N_rVTlz1cmTBfVnqWK7MGCyc-4klOH19wiLPzmRLa_U0XQgLQ1uo4I0Ng35nCxVmdqWV7J9ydJ83v8-B55lRj5mZSGCvfLgDxoWK8zRJ1iHqVFwA7cFLGmVyd2M6LsAcBFQAEbETh594WU969BbPrAHLZHMhN4dAokpi9P6K5RQNKM&smid=url-share

This is purely anecdotal, as was the OP's story, but I was last in Manhattan in mid-April and it was rather deserted of people but there were numerous people out yelling, catcalling, urinating, vomiting, etc, especially closer to 8th Ave. I had comments yelled at me about my perceived sexual orientation, my perceived wealth/lack of wealth, and my weight. I actually yelled back at the person who commented on my weight and he apologized and said he just needed money and got upset when I said no.

Many of us have romanticized the pre-Disney Times Square and lamented having lost the prostitutes, muggings, shootings, etc. for the last 25 years or so, people loved to say they missed the gritty Times Square. Now that we have them back to a certain extent, nobody really cares all that much since the industry is still closed. It will probably take several high profile tourist murders/muggings before much, if anything, is done. And it's worth noting that this is not just a Times Square or even a New York problem.

Yeah, the lack of compassion for people struggling due to mental illness, unemployment and lack of resources to help people is appalling. I was so goddamned ashamed of my neighborhood last Summer when all the Nimby bitches on the UWS were complaining 700 times a day and calling the police because a homeless person living at The Lucerne Hotel "peered at their child". I lost many friends due to how fake they turned out to be.

It's called compassion. Sympathy. Empathy. One can still protect ourselves but not be awful to people and act like they are low life scum. They are human beings. They hit a rough patch. They are struggling. They are traumatized. They have a progressive brain disease known as addiction.

Act goddamned accordingly to your fellow human being and show a little kindness.

Updated On: 7/19/21 at 11:19 PM

Sutton, the problem (at least on my block) with those hotels is they turned my block into makeshift tent cities where junkies would either pile used needles on the sidewalk or just throw them out of the hotel windows so my whole block had to be careful to not walk down the street we lived on and cross over to go anywhere otherwise there was risk of being hit with a needle or another animal stepping on them. Also, the amount of people passed out with needles in their arms rushing people for money or just screaming at them.

I have compassion. I really do. But this past year, parts of Hells Kitchen have reminded us why it has that name.

Updated On: 7/19/21 at 11:47 PM

Go get 'em! Clear our streets and subways of those filthy homeless people! This city is for US, not them! You can do it!

This city, like just about all cities and many smaller places, has challenges. Coming out of a pandemic, that had the major social confrontation in a half century right in the middle of it, that should surprise no one. But that article is filled with BS. (That's a term I use to mean that it was written by someone who knows not whereof they speak.) I walk around this city every day. I ride the subway just about every day. I know conservative lies when I read them.

The city is not as comfortable for some as it was in the years after the Giuliani experiment. We are paying the price of that experiment now. The city is not upholding its responsibilities to a lot of those suffering here. We have to do better. We've had enough Karens to have learned that people who have been let down by society, or grossly mismanaged, are not the equivalent of "unsafe" no matter how some may feel.

bwayobsessed said: "The fact that you like Giuliano’s approach shows your true colors and it’s not a good look."



Are you referring to Hogan's post? If so, I'd recommend reading his post again more carefully. Unless I'm grossly misunderstanding, it sounds like Hogan is saying the opposite. Only that it Giuliani made it more comfortable for SOME (i.e - the wealthy elite), and even that comfort was temporary, because it didn't actually address the problem.

Sutton Ross said: "

Act goddamned accordingly to your fellow human being and show a little kindness."

LOLOLOL Coming from you dude, that;s rich! Maybe try practicing what you preach!!

Ah I see, I forgot that the OP even mentioned Giuliani. Too focused on the "panhandlers" and the "Canadian Mounties" comments I suppose.

My apologies, bwayobsessed!

LizzieCurry said: "The... Mounties?

I actually used to follow Nicole Gelinas on Twitter until I couldn’t take it anymore. Be sure to check out who she works for."

Sorry Lizzie, Old cartoons and silent era movies had damsel tied to RR tracks only to have Canadian Mountie Dudley DoRight rescue her. Need Dudley in subway. Generational gap.

NYPD and MTA reported increase in crime. Pushing folks onto tracks and hoping someone helps you up before train comes. One lunatic did it in front of a cop.

It feels like no self-defense available in NYC and the flip side like the Floridian stand-your-ground law which gives you the legal right to shoot someone if you feel threatened. Imagine that in NYC. Daily News has become a daily obituary of shootings, slashings, subway crime.

I never hesitated to go to a night performance, but nervous now. Have the Stokes/Linc Ctr event. Won't attempt the subway.

Updated On: 7/20/21 at 10:41 PM