Who was Disney's target demographic with Into the Woods? — Page 3
Posted: 12/27/14 at 11:29pm
Posted: 12/28/14 at 12:50am
Well neither had budgets above $50 million, but Rent and The Producers were both playing in theatres in late 2005 (and their budgets weren't far off: $40 and $45 million, respectively).
Tangled and Burlesque, while not based on stage musicals, were both released in November 2010.
Posted: 12/28/14 at 1:20am
Your decrees on the "right" to way to raise children (yeah, like subjecting them to miserable fare like Into the Woods) are presumptuous, arrogant, ludicrous and beyond grotesque.
As for those who snottily blame the poor duped parents for not "doing their resarch," get off it, will ya? It's Disney. It has well-known fairy tale characters like Cinderella. In a normal universe, that's all a parent and child should need to know to have certain expectations going in, and to have those expectations met 100% by what they see. They should not be obliged to do research beforehand about the work of two people they never heard of to find out that they would be getting a "deconstructed " (a fancy way of saying sabotaged) version of these fairy tales, with ugly music, a lot of pretentious, patronizing lectures, and unhappiness for both children and adults like.
Strange as it may seem to some people here, parents have greater concerns than reading 1,526,731 posts a day for months on end about Into the Woods on Broadway World. Their world, surprise, suprise, does not revolve every second of the day around one Stephen Sondheim, as is the norm here. They actually have a life, and are concerned about such "unsophisticated" matters as earning a living, being able to support their children and raising their children CORRECTLY, teaching them right from wrong instead of immoral relativism, and instilling in them a positive outlook towards life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, as opposed to the miserable vision of life the joyless elitist snots would like to ram down their children's throats.
In other words, all blame should be placed entirely and solely where it belongs: on Disney, Sondheim, and Lapine.
Posted: 12/28/14 at 2:20am
Posted: 12/28/14 at 11:58am
A friends husband wanted to see it thinking it was about little red riding, but had no idea it was a musical.
They also play up the factor that it has fairy tales [which is correct], but it doesn't show that it's a dark/sexualized version of fairy tales. I went with my cousin who was very surprised by how dark the film was.
I just think its interesting to hear peoples thoughts that are not familiar with the show. I'm still shocked by how many people I spoke with that didn't know this was a musical.
Posted: 12/28/14 at 12:08pm
Posted: 12/28/14 at 12:22pm
Side note, did you forget was 'PG' even means? "Parental guidance suggested – SOME MATERIAL MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN." The movie wasn't rated G, you got what the rating suggests.
Why wouldn't you look into the movie to see if it seemed interesting enough to spend money on anyways? Movie ticket's aren't cheap, along with popcorn & drink, just two people alone gets to around $40. I'm not going to see Interstellar because I looked into it and was incredibly bored by the concept and plot. So I decided to not spend money on it. Wow, so difficult, so much time, so many message board threads - except not. It took the five minutes I was in a bathroom to figure that mystery out.
As for "it's Disney, it has well known characters" - several members of this thread have mentioned how Disney has always had a dark side and more serious subjects (Bambie, The Lion King, Snow White, etc.) so I wonder if you're being serious or trolling.
Posted: 12/28/14 at 12:30pm
Posted: 12/28/14 at 12:32pm
Posted: 12/28/14 at 12:47pm
You see AfterEight, part of the problem is that Cinderella is not as well known as you think it is. There were many audible gasps over the cutting off of body parts, and there are complaints about this on various message boards. That is in the original Grimm story. Most of these fairy tales are dark to begin with. And just because it is based on a fairy tale, doesn't mean it is made for little kids. Would you have taken your grand kids to see Snow White and the Huntsman? I mean it says Snow White, so it must be kid friendly, right?
Furthermore, there is the MPAA rating system. It is in place for this very reason. If something is rated over G, then it is the parents job to find out why and decide if it is really appropriate for their 5 or 6 year old. It doesn't take much to find this "PG (for thematic elements, fantasy action and peril, and some suggestive material)" as it is printed on the poster and trailers for the film. If you want more specifics it is quite easy to find various databases such as Kids-in-Mind that will tell you exactly what may raise concerns. A responsible parent does SOME degree of research before allowing a child to watch a movie, even if it is simply watching the trailer and saying, "Gee this looks a little too dark for Timmy and Johnny, maybe I should see it first before they see it."
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Posted: 12/28/14 at 2:11pm
I am not against the movie being released, but choosing to release it under the Disney brand was wrong. Disney owns Touchstone for movies like this. Disney as a brand should have a standard, but they broke it for this movie.
Updated On: 12/28/14 at 02:11 PM
Posted: 12/28/14 at 2:15pm
Posted: 12/28/14 at 2:19pm
Parents are supposed to be responsible. How is that asking a lot? It takes moments to figure it out.
Posted: 12/28/14 at 2:23pm
Maybe Disney has decided it's time for you to grow up, Fantod, you effing childish old man.
Posted: 12/28/14 at 2:25pm
So.... what Disney standard, Fantod?
Updated On: 12/28/14 at 02:25 PM
Posted: 12/28/14 at 2:29pm
Could you watch this movie in the apartment mother left you (as her framed photo looks on) and your nephew's toddler thinks she's sitting down to a lovely bedtime story with no rough edges?
Posted: 12/28/14 at 2:45pm
Posted: 12/28/14 at 2:47pm
Updated On: 12/28/14 at 02:47 PM
Posted: 12/28/14 at 3:07pm
The Grimm version was not the original telling of this tale.
"And just because it is based on a fairy tale, doesn't mean it is made for little kids."
Who were the Disney animated versions of fairy tales meant for?
"Honestly, I'm getting pleasure out of all the outraged parents."
Of course you are. You and all those like you.
Posted: 12/28/14 at 3:09pm
Posted: 12/28/14 at 3:24pm
Parenting advice--- lectures, actually, not advice--- from that expert on the raising of children, Stephen Sondheim: that's richer still.
What a joke. And that his legion of worshippers insist that we accept his "lessons" as the word of God: that's a bigger joke, still. A big, grotesque joke.
Children will listen, indeed.
For a sane world, not to you, I hope. Not to you.
Updated On: 12/28/14 at 03:24 PM
Posted: 12/28/14 at 3:25pm
I don't believe that I ever once said that it was. I very specifically referred to the original Grimm story, i did not say anything about the original iteration of the tale. Keep in mind that Perrault's telling of the tale is also not the original version of the story, although it is the most popular.
Who were the Disney animated versions of fairy tales meant for?
I never said a word about the Disney animated films. I was referring specifically to Into the Woods. Where did you even come up with that question? You made two separate points. That it was Disney AND "It has well-known fairy tale characters like Cinderella. In a normal universe, that's all a parent and child should need to know to have certain expectations going in, and to have those expectations met 100% by what they see." I simply stated that just because something is based on a well known fairy tale does not mean that it is meant for young children. Again, I ask would you take a young child to see Snow White and the Huntsman just because it is based on Snow White, a well known fairy tale character?
Posted: 12/28/14 at 3:35pm
And I asked you who the Disney animated version of Cinderella was meant for. Because like it or not, that is the version that has supplanted all others in the cultural consciousness of that tale.
As for your question regarding Snow White and the Huntsman, I didn't see it, and I have no idea what it even was.
Updated On: 12/28/14 at 03:35 PM
Posted: 12/28/14 at 3:54pm
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