Why did Kinky Boots get all of the awards it did?

[disneybroadwayfan22]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 12:41pm

I know, this debate has been done to death. Sorry if I annoy y'all.

But after hearing listening to the MATILDA OBC cast, I did recongize that Kinky Boots really was overlooked at the Tonys. Ok, i can understand and deal with Best Musical and Leading Actor. KB was a great show and Billy was great! But the others?

*Best Orchestrations-Yes, it was great and bouncy. But, Cinderella's was just gorgeous and classical. Listen to the Cinderella Waltz and "Do ILYBYAB?". It was so well-done. And after hearing the orchestrations of Matilda, I did realize that Matilda deserved it more than Kinky Boots. Listen to the music for the Acrobat/Escapologist stories. Holy crap! So chilling and whimsical. It reminded of the movie UP at some points!


*Best Cherography-I know this was a thread before. I was very shocked. The choreography for KB was nothing special at all, or least I can think of. It defientely should have gone to PIPPIN no matter if some was from Fosse. It was freaking circus and acrobat stuff, omg! Heck or Bring It On with the cheerleading stuff! I think it had a bigger chance and more deserving than KB. For Matilda, I just watched the Smell of Rebellion and wow, the choreography was amazing and it was pretty great with timing!

*Best Score-All I have to say is: I just read the lyrics for the booklet from the Deluxe album and i'm even more mad now. Giving Cyndi Best Score was a huge mistake. Tim's lyrics is just incredible.

I really think the voters were too favorable this year for Kinky Boots this year.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 12:44pm

I think it, like, got all those awards because it, like, won them all and stuff.

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 12:49pm

"I really think the voters were too favorable this year for Kinky Boots this year."

And you got all of this just by listening to the CD's and reading the liner notes?

[AC126748]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 12:54pm

It probably had something to do with receiving the most votes in those particular categories.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 12:55pm

I think it, like, got votes and people sort of like wanted it to win or something.

[Wynbish]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 12:59pm

But after hearing listening to the MATILDA OBC cast, I did recongize that Kinky Boots really was overlooked at the Tonys.

I really think the voters were too favorable this year for Kinky Boots this year.

So, the voters overlooked Kinky Boots and were too favorable?

Updated On: 9/28/13 at 12:59 PM

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 1:05pm

Those must have been some kick ass OBC's...

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 1:05pm

Yeah because they like gave awards to it but didn't like, give awards. It's totes complicated and it's like mkay if you don't understand because voting for awards is like AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH lol not 4 realz but just like for some of them so that's why it was overlooked but sooooooooo not deserving. But whatevs.

[hannahr18]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 1:13pm

Jordan Catalano - you're a real piece of work. People can't express opinions without you acting like they're an idiot? Get over yourself. And the creator obviously realizes that it received the most votes - they are, along with a lot of others, wondering how it rec'd so many awards. 4 realzz sUmmm peeplee have diff opnionz than u!!!!! whatevsss!!!! xD

[Wynbish]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 1:14pm

Ooh, there's some Jiffy Pop in my immediate future

[AKarp2013]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 1:19pm

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Even when it's wrong...

[eperkins]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 1:28pm

Opinions will vary.

[Wynbish]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 1:30pm

The OP's opinions varied just in that one post

[dramamama611]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 1:38pm

Here's the thing: The op realizes this has already been discussed but makes a new thread about it anyway instead of just adding his own opinion to existing threads. The op uses words he doesn't know the meaning of. The op asks a ridiculous question: WHY did it win. It very simply won because it rec'd the most votes. That IS the answer. We will NEVER why anyone voted the way they did.

If anyone ever thinks there is a year that people DON'T disagree with the Tony Awards (or ANY awards show) they are naive.

It's not that the OPs opinion is worthless, but the thread is useless and old and redundant.

Would I have given it all the awards it rec'd? NO, but I'm not a voter, so my opinion means squat.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 1:38pm

"Jordan Catalano - you're a real piece of work."

Thanks!!!

[darquegk]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 1:41pm

Let's not forget the cultural context, as well. This was a big year for the LGBTQ community, and in media and entertainment gay pride and acceptance is at an all-time high. So an empowering, American-made musical celebrating tolerance, acceptance and pride across a wide spectrum would have had big appeal. Add to that the participation of Cyndi Lauper, a longtime gay icon and supporter of equal rights.

Now contrast that with Matilda, a dark, satirical and (allegedly) "cold and heartless" show full of child abuse jokes, imported from London with many of its leads still intact. Is it a better show all in all? I would undeniably say yes. But one cannot discount the time and place a show premieres from the equation, and Kinky Boots apparently "felt right" to the committee more than Matilda did.

[disneybroadwayfan22]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 1:41pm

So, the voters overlooked Kinky Boots and were too favorable?

Wait, I'm sorry about the overlook part O_o I got confused. But yeah they were just too favorable. Sorry

[AC126748]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 2:05pm

Wait, I'm sorry about the overlook part O_o I got confused. But yeah they were just too favorable. Sorry


A majority of Tony Voters disagree with you.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 2:39pm

When something receives a majority vote, it (usually) wins. Do you expect us to go interview each Tony voter? I'm so confused with this thread..

[disneybroadwayfan22]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 2:48pm

I'm so confused with this thread..

How?

[binau]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 6:30pm

Thankfully it doesn't matter that KINKY BOOTS won the Tony Award for best score because in the end it doesn't change the fact that Matilda has the better score. ("Naughty", "When I Grow Up", "Quiet", "School Song", "The Smell of Rebellion").

I think that the Tony awards should select voters based on cognitive ability to prevent this mistake from happening in future. It has already happened so many times in the past.

Everybody say yeah!

Updated On: 9/28/13 at 06:30 PM

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 6:57pm

Maybe because it deserved them.

[quizking101]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 7:26pm

Bear in mind, for PIPPIN, only Chet Walker was nominated for Best Choreography, and not Gypsy Snider (who is responsible for all of the acrobatics). Considering that particular nomination boiled down to only the choreography done in the style of Bob Fosse (or in the case of the "Manson trio", verbatim like Fosse), maybe they felt that PIPPIN's choreography was too close to the Fosse original to be considered worthy of its own award.

Had they co-nominated Gypsy Snider, it would've been a whole different ball game.

[KathyNYC2]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 7:27pm

I dunno. I just saw Matilda for the 2nd time and I have seen Kinky Boots 4 times. I still prefer Kinky Boots for BEST Show, though I agree some of the individual categories might have gone differently. I still like some of the Matilda music more on the CD than in the theater - it's just too LOUD a show for my taste.

I did love Jill nu-Miss Honey - amazing. And I liked Craig more than I thought I would based what so many people here said. I think he did an amazing job not copying BC...making the role is own. I noticed the usher next to me this afternoon was laughing hysterically watching his performance. I did LOVE Sophia who I saw today..I thought she was utterly talented and charming.

But for an overall experience, I would race to go see Kinky Boots again..but I think I am Matilda-ed out after just twice (I still plan to buy the new CD but it's not there at the theater yet). I don't dislike Matilda. I just don't love it.

And not for nothing...I know everyone totally has their own opinions because different people like different everything - clothes, food, movies, tv, books, why not musicals. But what I overheard when I was leaving Matilda this afternoon from one woman was..."well it was good, but it was no Kinky Boots."

So to each his own. Some agree, some disagree, more of the Tony committee agreed about Kinky Boots so it won. So be it.













Updated On: 9/29/13 at 07:27 PM

[Ourtime992]

Posted: 9/28/13 at 10:40pm

You know what the really nice thing is? It doesn't matter. It really doesn't. They are awards for art, which is sort of a strange concept in and of itself. Even the argument that the awards drive ticket sales seems to be less important than it used to be. Both shows were really wonderful and while I had personal opinions about which was better in each of the categories, ultimately, it doesn't matter either way. If you love Matilda, do so unashamedly. It is no longer competing with Kinky Boots for anything, though, so there's no point in degrading one to make the other look better. Just my two cents.