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composers that you really wanted to like, but can't

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spiderdj82
#0composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 6:53pm

As the title suggests, what composers do you wish you could like, but don't?

Mine are:

Sondheim (I like a few of his shows, but I don't get what is so ooo and ahhh about this dude. If he wasn't overplayed I might like him more)

LaChiusa (I have bought two of his cd's just wanting to like them, but I don't. I like a couple of songs on both WILD PARY and HELLO AGAIN, but as a whole.......he doesn't do it for me)

and I can't think of anymore right now.


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#1re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 7:08pm

So, I guess every composer alive is great, right? re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't


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Updated On: 8/28/04 at 07:08 PM

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mebice
#2re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 7:17pm

i was just thinking the same thing...you would think sondheim is god the way people talk about him and his music and lyrics do nothing for me at all...


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#3re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 7:24pm

Like I said, I like a couple of his shows (Into the Woods, Passion, Sweeney todd (to an extent), company) but as a whole, I don't like him that much. I think he tries too hard to be artsy and different that it makes his music BLAH!!! I mean, when i pop in a musical recording I want to sing along with it, but with his musicals (not all of them) it is hard to get the songs into your head. I don't know


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LittleFish8386
#4re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 7:36pm

I can totally see where you are coming from with Michael John LaChiusa

Another one for me is Andrew Llyod Weber...I just cant get into any of his shows!

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MyNameInLights
#5re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 7:40pm

Rodgers and Hammerstein. Uh uh. Nope.


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Derek2
#6re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 7:55pm

Andrew Llyod Weber
sondheim

^ some songs are good

Plum
#7re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:04pm

Andrew Lloyd Webber. He isn't godawful or anything, and he has written some good songs, but so much of his music is...I guess banal is the word I'm looking for.

Sorry, spider. I worship the Sondheim. I'm building a shrine to his shows in my dorm room as we speak. re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't

LadyGuenevere
#8re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:08pm

ALW, and I tried to like Tick, Tick, Boom (Jonathan Larson's other work)- and HATED it. I thought Rent was decent, so I thought that I would like his other works. Guess not.

Plum
#9re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:13pm

Oh, Rent, too. I haven't listened to Tick Tick Boom, so I can't pass judgement on Larson's whole ouevre, but Rent was a definite disappointment for me.

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BlueWizard
#10re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:31pm

Rodgers and Hammerstein. I can't get into the Golden-era musicals, I just can't, they feel hokey-dokey to me.


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spiderdj82
#11re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:34pm

I think it is funny that both Sondheim and Webber's idols are Rodgers and Hammerstein. I mean, Hammerstein was the one to get the ball rolling with Sondheim and Webber said that Rodgers was his main reason to get into theatre.........but yet they are so different.


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BroadwayDiva
#12re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:36pm

Sondheim. I listened to a bunch of his works, and I just don't like them. I could barely get through ITW and Sweeney Todd, and Side byside by Sondheim didn't help me get into his works, either. I do, however love West Side Story, but Sondheim only did the lyrics for that.


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Plum
#13re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:41pm

I think what you pointed out is both true and good, spider. R&H were innovators in musical theater in their time. If Sondheim and ALW had merely imitated them, they wouldn't be working in their spirit at all. Instead, they chose to go in different directions, and both effected a lot of change in musical theater themselves. Which is exactly how R&H would have had it. :)

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BreakingTheCircle07
#14re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:42pm

Guettel's Myths and Hyms is hard to love, but Collins is a lil easier to swallow. I'm looking forward to Piazza.
WEBBER!!! ::insert angry face here::
Anything relatively new that Scwartz has written have been let downs.
I LOVE Sondheim, but it killed me that I didn't like Bounce at all. It was like rooting for your child on the baseball team and he blows. You're suppose to love and support him, but he ends up lookin' a fool! As was Bounce.


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Updated On: 8/28/04 at 08:42 PM

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Marquise
#15re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:47pm

whats up with all these negative "worst of" threads? what excatly is the point?

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spiderdj82
#16re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:49pm

I personally am just curious. It isn't to point fingers and say "this person is horrible." I mean there are two spectrums with everyone...........those composers people like and those composers who people don't. Everyone always talks about their favorites and I was just wondering what the other side to the musical theatre fan is.


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Updated On: 8/28/04 at 08:49 PM

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StickToPriest
#17re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:50pm

“Once Upon a Time...

There was a great songwriter called Stephen Sondheim.
He had many, many hit shows, among which were:
Sunday in the Park with George
....I wish...
Assassins
....I wish...
And the fairytale musical of 1988, Into the Woods.
....I wish...

All the characters in all the shows
Were very happy to be in a pretigious Sondheim musical.
....I wish, I wish this show was more melodic, I wish...
...I wish, I wish this show was not so bloody, I wish...
....I wish, I wish the lyrics weren’t so wordy, I wish...
You see with Sondheim shows, people sometimes miss the point.
They’re suppossed to listen and go...into the words...
...into the words...
...into the words...
...into the words...

Into the words
The synonyms, the metaphors, the perfect scan
Into the words
The detail and the tricky little phrases
Into the words
The what, the where, the when ,the why the plot began
Into the words
The work, the craft that garners all the praises

Into the words
Into the words
The music waits
Into the words
Into the words
The lyric states

That Into the words
Your content always comes before your form and style
Into the words
Internal Rhymes that even baffled Merman
Into the words
That quick exchange, so quick and strange, you’ll cry and smile
And never repeat a verse or bridge, this isn’t Jerry Herman

Into the Words
Into the Words
They always teach
Into the Words
Into the Words
To hear me preach

The thought are clear, if understood
I have no peer ‘cause I’m so good
The score is the star
The star’s are just wood
I sorta hate to ask it,
But what’s a rhyme for basket?”

And so on and so forth


"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."

The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.

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#18re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:51pm

wow!!


"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2

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#19re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:52pm

*applauds sticktopriest* That was REALLY wow!!


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StickToPriest
#20re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:52pm

It is FORBIDDEN BROADWAY's 'Into the Words'


It wasn't mine re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't


"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."

The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.

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spiderdj82
#21re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:54pm

Oh. lol. That is still good though.


"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2

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StickToPriest
#22re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 9:14pm

I really want to like Jeanine Tesori's work.

But the only show of hers that I like is CAROLINE, OR CHANGE.


"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."

The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.

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spiderdj82
#23re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 9:44pm

a musical I bought and listened to a billion times to try to like is WONDERFUL TOWN, but besides the overature and one or two songs, I think it is BORING. I love the movie version of it with Bob Fosse and Janet Leigh called MY SISTER EILEEN, too. DANG IT, I wish I liked it.


"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2

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StickToPriest
#24re: composers that you really wanted to like, but can't
Posted: 8/28/04 at 10:55pm

Yes, but the songs that *are* good in WONDERFUL TOWN are great!


"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."

The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.


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