Chorus Member Joined: 10/28/12
froote said: "I could see a world in which CFA and DEH split the votes for the emotional, pulling on your heartstrings shows and Comet came through the middle for being the innovative, landmark artistic achievement.
agree. and would love to see this happen!
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Precisely, and that's why I strongly believe Great Comet deserves Best Musical.
Dear Evan Hansen and Come from Away are, of course, wonderful shows. But in my eyes, Great Comet represents the future of what musical theatre can achieve. It's dynamic, innovative, new. It isn't avant-garde for the simple sake of being avant-garde. It's ambitious and is tremendously successful in what it accomplishes. That, to me, makes it this season's "Best Musical."
I hope the Tony voters will recognize this.
Can Bette Midler and company break the ‘Hello, Dolly!’ Tony Awards curse?
http://www.goldderby.com/article/2017/bette-midler-hello-dolly-tony-awards-predictions-news-135790864/
Broadway Star Joined: 3/5/04
Dolly- 8 noms
Comet-8 noms
Hansen-6 noms
CFA-6 noms
War paint- 5 noms
Bronx-4 noms
Anastasia-4 noms
Groundhog-4 noms
Sunset- 4 noms
Saigon-3 noms
Bandstand-3 noms
Holiday Inn-2 noms
Charlie-1 nom
Amelie-1 nom
I finally got around to seeing Sunset Blvd and I was blown away! I think this is the sleeper pick for Best Revival of a Musical - especially since Glen won't be up for Best Actress.
Updated On: 4/24/17 at 09:50 AM
I'm hoping both Saigon and Sunset somehow get in with nominations for Revival. They're both deserving in their own rights, IMO.
Daddy Warbucks said: "I finally got around to seeing Sunset Blvd and I was blown away! I think this is the sleeper pick for Best Revival of a Musical - especially since Glen won't be up for Best Actress.
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I've wondered if Tony voters might feel similarly and pass on giving it to Hello Dolly as best revival giving Bette that award, but giving it to Sunset since this one has been billed as GLENN CLOSE IN SUNSET BOULEVARD (rather than Andrew Lloyd Webber's Sunset Boulevard as it was in the original)
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/26/16
I feel pretty safe with my prediction of Hello, Dolly as Best Revival of a Musical.
I think that, along with Best Actress (Midler) and Best Set Design (Great Comet) are locks. I can imagine upsets in other categories, but not those.
Chorus Member Joined: 3/30/17
I thought Sunset Blvd and Great Comet were the two most insufferable things I have sat through this year. The thought of them winning their respective Tony categories gives me palpitations.
Great Comet should (and will) win set, and I would be happy if it won lighting. The performances (outside of Groban) were dreadful. The music was forgettable. The plot was unintelligible. (Why would you champion a plot that needs program notes and charts to be understood?) I get that it was a new way to produce theatre, but, goodness...
As for Sunset, I may be in the minority but I kept wondering if I should laugh at every scene. I kept wondering if Kate Mackinnon should replace Glenn Close when she left the production.
I mean, for whatever it's worth, Les Mis has always had a plot synopsis in the playbill, and this season alone Oslo has a long list of the characters and where they're from along with a more detailed explainer in the program. Comet is far from the first show with any of that (and personally I really don't think it's that hard to follow).
Broadway Star Joined: 3/5/04
Bobbyd3- we should be friends....I escaped Comet after the first Act and agree about Sunset- laughable and a big bore.
BobbyD3 said: "I thought Sunset Blvd and Great Comet were the two most insufferable things I have sat through this year. The thought of them winning their respective Tony categories gives me palpitations.
Great Comet should (and will) win set, and I would be happy if it won lighting. The performances (outside of Groban) were dreadful. The music was forgettable. The plot was unintelligible. (Why would you champion a plot that needs program notes and charts to be understood?) I get that it was a new way to produce theatre, but, goodness...
As for Sunset, I may be in the minority but I kept wondering if I should laugh at every scene. I kept wondering if Kate Mackinnon should replace Glenn Close when she left the production.
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Well I suppose different strokes... I can't listen to more than 30 seconds of anything from Hello Dolly without being bored so...
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
Robbie2 said: "Can Bette Midler and company break the ‘Hello, Dolly!’ Tony Awards curse?
http://www.goldderby.com/article/2017/bette-midler-hello-dolly-tony-awards-predictions-news-135790864/
It wasn't a curse. I saw all three revivals and enjoyed all three, but...
The Channing revivals were essentially the same as the original Broadway version (if the sets were slightly more austere, I don't remember), but truthfully had the feeling of the last stop on a bus-and-truck tour. They were entertaining, but lacked energy. There was no reason to nominate anyone in the case, which were all that would have been eligible (or should have been eligible). If Eddie Bracken was nominated, I will venture to guess that it was a loss season for musicals and that they were stretching. He was fine, but nothing special.
I remember the Pearl Bailey version being more energetic, but it was still not a new production...just the same old same old.
I don't see Dolly for another month, but am already delighted to see that the sets are different (of what I have seen, the Harmonia Gardens stairs look much 'richer' than the original production, which projected no 'elegance'. (Despite that, I still think that was probably the best single production number that I have ever seen).
Bottom line: No true revival, No curse.
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BroadwayConcierge said: "I'm hoping both Saigon and Sunset somehow get in with nominations for Revival. They're both deserving in their own rights, IMO.
"I think Saigon should be a close second to Dolly. I thought Sunset would have been horrible without Glenn Close.
Swing Joined: 10/9/13
BroadwayConcierge said: "Precisely, and that's why I strongly believe Great Comet deserves Best Musical.
Dear Evan Hansen and Come from Away are, of course, wonderful shows. But in my eyes, Great Comet represents the future of what musical theatre can achieve. It's dynamic, innovative, new. It isn't avant-garde for the simple sake of being avant-garde. It's ambitious and is tremendously successful in what it accomplishes. That, to me, makes it this season's "Best Musical."
I hope the Tony voters will recognize this.
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YES TO ALL OF THIS. I agree it will be a tough draw between Comet, DEH, and Come from Away, but I firmly believe Comet deserves the win. It's ambitious but doesn't throw everything else out the window. I do not understand the backlash saying the storyline is nothing. The plot is beautiful and is a story that has been loved since the 19th century in arguably one of the most classical books in all of literature. It is a story that defies time, and I think Comet proves that point by their contemporary take. I think the wins will go as follows
Best Musical: Great Comet
Best Revival of a Musical: Hello, Dolly!
Best Leading Actor in a Musical: Ben Platt
Best Leading Actress in a Musical: Bette Midler
Best Featured Actor in a Musical: Lucas Steele
Best Featured Actress in a Musical: Rachel Bay Jones
Best Book of a Musical: Come From Away
Best Original Score: Great Comet
Best Orchestrations: Great Comet
Best Direction: Great Comet
Best Lighting Design: Great Comet
Best Scenic Design in a Musical: Great Comet
I would love to see the Great Comet win, but if I had to put my money where my mouth is, I would bet on Come From Away. It is a really great and timely ensemble piece that did really cool things with its book.
Is Jon Jon Briones up for Featured or Leading role?
Historically the Engineer has been considered Leading, iirc.
War Paint Musical Montage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VCg0Kv2ypo
I Predict: 3 nominations
Patti
Christine
Costumes
evic, care to tell us what your predictions are?
Does anyone think War Paint has a chance at a scenic design nom?
Featured Actor Joined: 6/15/16
Outer Critics noms are out. Will these have an impact on what gets Tony nominated?
Another Winter said: "Does anyone think War Paint has a chance at a scenic design nom?"
Well theoretically it has a chance at a nomination in every category for which it is eligible.
curel1 said: "Outer Critics noms are out. Will these have an impact on what gets Tony nominated?"
Unlikely- the OCC has a different nominating pool and can also nominate off-Broadway. Dear Evan Hansen and The Great Comet were also ineligible (except for a few of Comet's tech elements because of the new theatre) and that isn't the case for the Tonys.
The Tonys can't really be predicted by the behavior of the other theatre awards. Unlike the Academy Awards' precursors, the other theatre awards aren't generally made up of blocs of Tony nominators or voters and also have wildly divergent rules. Also, productions that are contenders for major Tonys are often transfers of earlier off-Broadway productions, meaning they are ineligible for reconsideration by the OCC or Drama Desks or whatever.
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