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Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
#25Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/2/18 at 10:10pm
I have forgotten Frankie Valli. I can't think of any male role in musical theater that has to sing as much as he does.
Rainah
Broadway Star Joined: 11/24/16
#26Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/2/18 at 10:13pm
I think it's certainly a marathon. A lot of roles are though.
#28Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 12:05am
Dewey is a five show role? Really?! I've never head of a 5 show role. I've only heard of 6-8. Even Evita did 6 shows a week. How many performances a week did the actor playing Franki Valli do?
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#30Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 5:35amWas it always that way?
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
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dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#31Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 5:35amWas it always that way?
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#32Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 7:14am
PThespian said: "Yes. There is an evening Dewey who does five shows a week (currently Justin Collette) and an alternate who does the threee matinees (currently Connor John Giliooly) b"
I feel like you're just sharing the role at that point.
#33Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 9:49am
dramamama611 said: "Was it always that way?"
Per the opening night Playbill (which shows 3 understudies) and ibdb (which shows the first alternate in September), no. I have not paid enough attention to the show to know how many performances Brightman was doing from the get-go.
Br0adway
Stand-by Joined: 9/11/17
#34Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 10:27am
I agree with Evan Hansen. On stage almost the whole show and cry sings. I’d like to see Hamilton cry sing.
But if we’re demanding- I’m going to add in Anna from Frozen. She’s constantly on stage, sings, dances, etc.
#35Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 10:32am
. I’d like to see Hamilton cry sing.
He does.
TexanAddams18
Stand-by Joined: 7/19/11
#36Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 10:36am
Reminder that someone can give an amazing, spellbinding performance without "Cry-Singing"
BroadwayConcierge
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/24/15
#37Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 10:40am
TexanAddams18 said: "Reminder that someone can give an amazing, spellbinding performance without "Cry-Singing""
We live in a post-DEH world now, so cry-singing is actually now the only way you can give a good performance. Everything else is crap.
Br0adway
Stand-by Joined: 9/11/17
#38Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 10:40am
RicardoMagon said: ". I’d like to see Hamilton cry sing.
He does.
"
If he supposed to he didn’t for my show. But I just think my show was off because it was the day before Javier Munoz left and everything was off. The show started without music for a good 5 minutes until they reset.
#39Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 10:42am
The Hamilton I saw was crying and singing during "It's quiet uptown". Maybe all of them don't do it though.
TexanAddams18
Stand-by Joined: 7/19/11
#40Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 10:48am
BroadwayConcierge said: "TexanAddams18 said: "Reminder that someone can give an amazing, spellbinding performance without "Cry-Singing""
We live in a post-DEHworld now, so cry-singing is actually now the only way you can give a good performance. Everything else is crap."
Totally, I don't even know why they bother awarding Lead Actor in a Musical this year. 4 Horrible, non-cry-singing performances.
#41Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 11:09am
RicardoMagon said: "The Hamilton I saw was crying and singing during "It's quiet uptown". Maybe all of them don't do it though."
Michael Luwoye cried through this song and it was gut wrenching. That’s the first time IVe seen tears from a Hamilton. Completely took that song to another level for me. Everyone seated around us was crying as well.
willrolandsframes
Stand-by Joined: 2/26/17
#42Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 11:21am
HogansHero said: "dramamama611 said: "Was it always that way?"
Per the opening night Playbill (which shows 3 understudies) and ibdb (which shows the first alternate in September), no. I have not paid enough attention to the show to know how many performances Brightman was doing from the get-go."
If I remember correctly, the change was made in regards to the weight/fitness issue with Brightman as Dewey. I heard that Brightman was losing a significant amount of weight from playing Dewey 7-8 shows a week, and they needed him to have a bit of heft. I remember reading that he actually had a dietitian help him to not lose as much weight. I guess the fact that Dewey is now a 5-show character probably has a lot to do with this issue.
With that being said, I would definitely put Dewey Finn in the Top 3 most demanding roles currently on Broadway, if not THE most demanding.
#43Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 11:26am
I figured it was 5 shows a week now cause Brightman was missing a ton of performances.
BroadwayConcierge
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/24/15
#44Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 12:06pm
Per the script of Hamilton, during "Quiet Uptown," Hamilton is supposed to be emotional but nothing too exaggerated until Eliza sings her one line—and then he is supposed to utterly shatter.
Of all the Hamiltons I've seen, Luwoye has definitely displayed the most emotion during the song up until Eliza's line, but his "shattering" thereafter is especially grueling and heartbreaking to see. So, "Quiet Uptown" doesn't necessarily call for cry-singing. I think it's really up to the actor to figure out the best way to make Hamilton's pivotal emotional change work after Eliza's moment.
#45Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 1:13pm
I believe Burr is the more demanding role. I believe I read somewhere that LMM wrote the role of Hamilton for himself, but after the musical was fully developed he wish he played Burr.
As far as other demanding roles, Franki Valli is certainly demanding. Evan Hansen is certainly demanding emotionally. I can’t imagine crying almost an entire show 8 days a week.
The role of the Dysquith Family in Gentleman’s Guide to Love and Murder is very demanding.
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Updated On: 6/3/18 at 01:13 PM
#46Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 1:14pm
BroadwayConcierge said: "Per the script ofHamilton, during "Quiet Uptown,"Hamilton is supposed to be emotional but nothing too exaggerateduntil Eliza sings her one line—and then he is supposed to utterly shatter.
You have the script of Hamilton?
TexanAddams18
Stand-by Joined: 7/19/11
#47Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 2:00pm
Three Highest Demanding Current Male Roles:
Dewey, Phantom, Spongebob
#48Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 2:19pm
Phantom? Is that a joke?
Lin-Manuel Miranda
Swing Joined: 12/9/09
#49Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 2:21pm
First of all, I wake up changing diapers, and don't start rapping til after lunch.
I'll leave it to you all to debate where Hamilton goes in the all-time pantheon (Valjean and Frankie Valli are ROUGH, and I'd put Hedwig up at the top) but my two cents: You know the old line how Ginger Rogers does everything Astaire does, but backwards and in heels? That's Aaron Burr in this show. Burr's track is more physically demanding and Hamilton's is more vocally demanding in my opinion. And Lafayette/Jefferson and Angelica are tied for trickiest verbal passages.
Okay, carry on, happy Sunday!
CT2NYC
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/7/17
#50Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 2:33pm
Lin-Manuel Miranda said: "First of all, I wake up changing diapers, and don't start rapping til after lunch.
I'll leave it to you all to debate where Hamilton goes in the all-time pantheon (Valjean and Frankie Valli are ROUGH, and I'd put Hedwig up at the top) but my two cents: You know the old line how Ginger Rogers does everything Astaire does, but backwards and in heels? That's Aaron Burr in this show. Burr's track is more physically demanding and Hamilton's is more vocally demanding in my opinion. And Lafayette/Jefferson and Angelica are tied for trickiest verbal passages.
Okay, carry on, happy Sunday!"
Lin has spoken. I guess that answers that question!!!
#51Is Hamilton one of the most demanding male roles to play?
Posted: 6/3/18 at 2:42pm
Lin-Manuel Miranda said: "First of all, I wake up changing diapers, and don't start rapping til after lunch.
I'll leave it to you all to debate where Hamilton goes in the all-time pantheon (Valjean and Frankie Valli are ROUGH, and I'd put Hedwig up at the top) but my two cents: You know the old line how Ginger Rogers does everything Astaire does, but backwards and in heels? That's Aaron Burr in this show. Burr's track is more physically demanding and Hamilton's is more vocally demanding in my opinion. And Lafayette/Jefferson and Angelica are tied for trickiest verbal passages.
Okay, carry on, happy Sunday!"
Well that settles that argument
Not to be confused with Dave19.