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javero
#925Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/22/16 at 8:50pm

Textbook Clintonian pick.  Not too controversial; would make a good POTUS if something were to happen to Hillary, speaks Spanish fluently, and a very popular former mayor of the City of Richmond/governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia which is now a persistent swing state.  On balance, he's a safe choice.  He doesn't add to her tally of negatives.

Team Clinton/Kaine


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madbrian
#926Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/22/16 at 9:00pm

The risk factor for some of the picks (Brown, Warren, Booker) was less about ideology and more about replacement by a GOP governor. 


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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PalJoey
#927Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/22/16 at 11:00pm

 

Oh, well, he's good on women, gays and guns.

I'll take him.

 


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PalJoey
#928Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/22/16 at 11:04pm

 

 

And immigration. He's good on immigration too.

Here, read this:

 

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/here-are-six-things-you-probably-dont-know-about-vp-pick-tim-kaine/

 

 


@z5
#929Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 1:30am

Hillary should keep preaching about the top 1% [which she is in] and preaching about the dangers and horrors of income inequality...while in a $12,000+ jacket....hmmmm so out of touch with reality. 

 

Also, how disgusting the DNC and Wasserman-Schultz behaved towards and treated Bernie is despicable. The system was completely rigged against him. They're all a bunch of nasty snakes. 

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javero
#930Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 8:08am

Reality is relative...

Hillary is savvy enough to strike a conciliatory note that will resonate with as much of the electorate as possible to guarantee victory come November.  The alternative is to cut off her party's nose to spite its face which is the political equivalent of purity rings.  So far, Hillary's electoral calculus seems to be just fine as she's her party's nominee.

Steady as she goes, Hills!


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madbrian
#931Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 8:21am

Last night, Rachel Maddow interviewed three liberals, trying to get a feel for their opinion of Kaine. Cecile Richards and Joan Walsh were both 100% behind him. Only Ben Jealous had reservations, and he came across as a disgruntled Bernie Bro. 


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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javero
#932Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 8:51am

Saw it and was rather disappointed by Jealous' lack of enthusiasm for Hillary's pick.  Sour grapes are never in season.


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#934Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 9:12am

An unispired choice. Hooray for another all white ticket! But it makes Wall Street happy so not a surprise.

Kaine pick draws mixed reviews from liberals

While Wall Street lobbyists rejoice, progressive groups are less than thrilled.
 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/progressive-group-pans-clinton-vp-kaine-on-trade-226050#ixzz4FEl4Dloo 

Meanwhile the good/smart folks at 538 now have Trump at 40%

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

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#935Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 9:15am

Has their prediction changed?


Hey Dottie! Did your colleagues enjoy the cake even though your cat decided to sit on it? ~GuyfromGermany

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madbrian
#936Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 9:30am

Their numbers have changef dramatically over the last few weeks. Polls have tightened since Comey made his remarks about the emails. Numbers will be in flux until after the Dem convention. 


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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javero
#937Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 9:48am

Kaine is wildly popular in VA among the traditional base and palatable to politically-closeted-Trump-hating-moderate-GOP-voters in northern VA.  I'm confident he'll help the ticket bring VA back into the fold which will make FL a must-win for Trump.  I recall your watching Maddow last night.  Steve Kornacki, who's a helluva lot smarter than I'll ever be on the topic, broke down the path to 270 brilliantly.

ETA: At the end of the day, it all boils down to math.  www.270towin.com puts it right out there in a way that I can understand.  There are 85 winning combinations for Clinton-Kaine to 72 for Trump-Pence.


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Updated On: 7/23/16 at 09:48 AM

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DAME
#938Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 3:12pm

Oops.  I posted in the wrong thread.  I thought Kaines speech today from Miami was perfection.  I'm excited. 


HUSSY POWER! ------ HUSSY POWER!

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javero
#939Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 3:40pm

Responded already but thanks for sharing, DAME!


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#940Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 3:42pm

I thought Kaine's introduction was well done.   Parts of his speech were clearly calculated to pull on the heart strings, but they were effective and at times inspiring.  I wish he had been on the campaign trail with Hillary all along.  She can impress with policy and take the high road.  They balance each other well.

 

 

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PalJoey
#941Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 4:22pm

 

The general perception seems to be that after listening to his speech today, everyone is pretty much completely won over.

Tim Kaine, much to my surprise, has proven to be an excellent choice. And, as one friend said, "the wisdom of the choice only makes me feel more respect for the woman who made it."

 


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PalJoey
#942Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 4:39pm

 

Here's the lineup!

 

Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

 

 


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adamgreer
#943Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 4:53pm

Is Warren no longer speaking at all?

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madbrian
#944Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 4:56pm

Kaine and Warren need to be added to that lineup. As much as Warren seems to enjoy trolling Trump, I hope she's not strictly negative. She has a unique gift for explaing complex issues in simple terms without seeming to condescend, and I'd hate to see that squandered. 

Is there an official keynote?


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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Rumpelstiltskin
#945Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 4:56pm

PalJoey said: "Here's the lineup! ... "

 

I'm surprised Kaine isn't listed.  (Full lineup here:  https://www.demconvention.com/event-categories/july-25/ Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory  Is that because they haven't updated the schedule since the announcement, or did he already cover all they needed him to say this afternoon? 

 

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DAME
#946Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 5:19pm

Warren said on Colbert that she is speaking on Monday.  What night is Oprah on?  Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory


HUSSY POWER! ------ HUSSY POWER!

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PalJoey
#947Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 6:09pm

Oprah and Warren aren't listed yet. Biden is on Wednesday.

 

And for those up above on this thread who questioned her commitment to police, this guy is speaking on Tuesday:

 

Joe Sweeney

Joe, of New York, NY,  was a detective with the NYPD on September 11, 2001. When the towers were hit, he rushed down to the World Trade Center and began digging through the rubble for survivors.


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South Florida
#948Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 6:48pm

PJ, your real identity is Chelsea Clinton.

 


Stephanatic

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Call_me_jorge
#949Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory
Posted: 7/23/16 at 7:28pm

Why aren't warren and Oprah listed yet? And where is kaine? Is he a late add on?


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