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It was rhetorical. It's already been established you aren't very bright and don't have any original thoughts.

D’aww, thanks, newintown. But context is king, and at this moment, I think there’s no one better on the board than Carlos.

Back to the matter at hand...

Huh? Pretty sure I learned everything from this thread.

Updated On: 9/27/16 at 05:32 PM

Lay off the sauce, South Florida.

Whatever Kad, I like your posts too, but Growlie is just better.

Dear Carlos--



Please read.



http://aplus.com/a/grain-of-saul-support-hillary-clinton

Well put, newintown.

Liza's Headband said: "newintown said: "I just love this sentence in that piece Joey links above:

"Let's start with a simple but important position: Hillary Clinton is the most qualified person to ever run for president."

It can't be said enough. And do you know why? Because many self-professed Clinton Haters, when presented with evidence that their objections are based on myth, still choose to hate her. Which means, of course, that the hate doesn't stem from a sober examination of facts, but from an unexamined emotional response. And the most obvious cause of that would have to be a misogyny so deeply ingrained (even among women) that it can't be recognized."



I assume you are a woman yourself? "



I'm a woman and I agree with what newintown said. Misogyny has become deeply ingrained in women because it's become so normalized.

I like Hillary. A lot. I also understand a lot of the criticism she receives. What I find difficult to understand is the selective aggressiveness against her compared to other mainstream centrist Dem politicians. Or others who have made mistakes (and who hasn't?).

There's a soft (at best) bigotry of high expectations problem. Many, it seems, want her to be something she's not because she's a woman. Obama suffered something like this as as "the black president," but no where near what Hillary has suffered. It's grossly unfair. it's gross in fact.

There's certainly sexism. But it's not always the typical kind of sexism - sometimes, including from women critical of Hillary, it's an expectation that because she is a woman, her failure to be a leftist's dream or to outshine everyone else or to be irreproachable becomes for her severest critics highly morally disappointing, even unforgivable.

Updated On: 9/28/16 at 12:00 PM

I think part of the issue is that when we talk about "misogyny" or "sexism," people immediately assume that it can't possibly apply to them because they "love women." They love women in their lives, they love actresses, whatever, so they have a hard time imagining how their reactions to Hillary are filtered through misogynistic ideology. This happens all the time with race too, if you are a person of color you've heard it before, "I'm not racist, I have a black/Latino/Asian friend." But the fact of the matter is that our reactions to Hillary are deeply entrenched in our expectations and notions of what a woman is or should be. The whole "I just don't trust her" thing that gets thrown around constantly when she comes up is not evidently a sexist reaction, but it goes back to our expectations that women should be nurturing, affable, and kind, and when they are not, then they must somehow be evil or conniving or whatnot. It's an unconscious level of misogyny that's harder to point out than explicit forms of sexism because it has little to do with the immediate reaction of hating women that we associate with words like "sexist."

Unless, of course, you simply have the same expectations of any public servant no matter their gender.... then your point would be invalid.