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[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 4:05pm

 

Do you know why they call royalty bluebloods?
Well, I do
They call royalty bluebloods
Because their skin was so thin
That their veins showed through...blue
There, that's something I've taught you
No need to thank me

[jb19662]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 4:05pm

It was rhetorical.  It's already been established you aren't very bright and don't have any original thoughts. 

 

 

[newintown]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 4:10pm

There's really no one better on the board than the growl.

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 4:26pm

 

D’aww, thanks, newintown. But context is king, and at this moment, I think there’s no one better on the board than Carlos.

[jb19662]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 4:34pm

This board is a lot more exciting than All That Chat!

[Kad]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 4:36pm

Back to the matter at hand...

 

[South Florida]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 4:59pm

Hey jb19662 you seem to know quite a bit about Carlos, please let us know all you've learned on these boards in just under 3 months  As for the rest of you, it sucks when half the country feels the same about her as Carlos does, so please allow us all to wallow in our ignorance, you are all obviously smarter than us. And Growl is my favorite poster too.

 

 

[jb19662]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 5:32pm

Huh? Pretty sure I learned everything from this thread. 

Updated On: 9/27/16 at 05:32 PM

[South Florida]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 5:36pm

All you need to know about someone in order to start your name calling is what you've read here?  A**hole!

[Kad]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 5:40pm

Lay off the sauce, South Florida.

[Steve C.]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 5:52pm

If you ever stay at a Trump hotel, don't pay the bill and tell them you weren't satisfied. Personally, I would never stay there, but it would be interesting if someone tried it. I would be video recording the results.

 

(I'm trying Kad, to be back on topic)

Updated On: 9/27/16 at 05:52 PM

[South Florida]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 6:48pm

Whatever Kad, I like your posts too, but Growlie is just better.

 

[HorseTears]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 4:07am

BOOM!

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 9:22am

 

Dear Carlos--

 

Please read.

 

http://aplus.com/a/grain-of-saul-support-hillary-clinton

 

[newintown]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 10:19am

I just love this sentence in that piece Joey links above:

"Let's start with a simple but important position: Hillary Clinton is the most qualified person to ever run for president."

It can't be said enough. And do you know why? Because many self-professed Clinton Haters, when presented with evidence that their objections are based on myth, still choose to hate her. Which means, of course, that the hate doesn't stem from a sober examination of facts, but from an unexamined emotional response. And the most obvious cause of that would have to be a misogyny so deeply ingrained (even among women) that it can't be recognized.

Updated On: 9/28/16 at 10:19 AM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 10:53am

Well put, newintown.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 11:16am

newintown said: "I just love this sentence in that piece Joey links above:

"Let's start with a simple but important position: Hillary Clinton is the most qualified person to ever run for president."

It can't be said enough. And do you know why? Because many self-professed Clinton Haters, when presented with evidence that their objections are based on myth, still choose to hate her. Which means, of course, that the hate doesn't stem from a sober examination of facts, but from an unexamined emotional response. And the most obvious cause of that would have to be a misogyny so deeply ingrained (even among women) that it can't be recognized.

 

"

 

I assume you are a woman yourself? 

[givesmevoice]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 11:19am

Liza's Headband said: "newintown said: "I just love this sentence in that piece Joey links above:

"Let's start with a simple but important position: Hillary Clinton is the most qualified person to ever run for president."

It can't be said enough. And do you know why? Because many self-professed Clinton Haters, when presented with evidence that their objections are based on myth, still choose to hate her. Which means, of course, that the hate doesn't stem from a sober examination of facts, but from an unexamined emotional response. And the most obvious cause of that would have to be a misogyny so deeply ingrained (even among women) that it can't be recognized."

 

I assume you are a woman yourself? "

 

I'm a woman and I agree with what newintown said. Misogyny has become deeply ingrained in women because it's become so normalized.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 11:45am

Great. I was specifically asking newintown, though. 

[henrikegerman]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 12:00pm

I like Hillary.  A lot.  I also understand a lot of the criticism she receives.  What I find difficult to understand is the selective aggressiveness against her compared to other mainstream centrist Dem politicians.  Or others who have made mistakes (and who hasn't?).

There's a soft (at best) bigotry of high expectations problem.  Many, it seems, want her to be something she's not because she's a woman.  Obama suffered something like this as as "the black president," but no where near what Hillary has suffered.  It's grossly unfair.  it's gross in fact.  

There's certainly sexism.   But it's not always the typical kind of sexism - sometimes, including from women critical of Hillary, it's an expectation that because she is a woman, her failure to be a leftist's dream or to outshine everyone else or to be irreproachable becomes for her severest critics highly morally disappointing, even unforgivable.

Updated On: 9/28/16 at 12:00 PM

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 12:14pm

Her long history with questionable ethics and corrupt dealings is unforgivable; not whether she has a penis or a vagina. For example, I feel that same way about many other career politicians who share an equally "shady" or tainted past -- Rangle, Weiner, Spitzer, Grimm, Nixon, Hastert, etc., etc. How is it sexist to comparing her on the same level as these men? 

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 12:15pm

I think part of the issue is that when we talk about "misogyny" or "sexism," people immediately assume that it can't possibly apply to them because they "love women." They love women in their lives, they love actresses, whatever, so they have a hard time imagining how their reactions to Hillary are filtered through misogynistic ideology. This happens all the time with race too, if you are a person of color you've heard it before, "I'm not racist, I have a black/Latino/Asian friend." But the fact of the matter is that our reactions to Hillary are deeply entrenched in our expectations and notions of what a woman is or should be. The whole "I just don't trust her" thing that gets thrown around constantly when she comes up is not evidently a sexist reaction, but it goes back to our expectations that women should be nurturing, affable, and kind, and when they are not, then they must somehow be evil or conniving or whatnot. It's an unconscious level of misogyny that's harder to point out than explicit forms of sexism because it has little to do with the immediate reaction of hating women that we associate with words like "sexist."

[newintown]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 12:18pm

"Rangle [sic], Weiner, Spitzer, Grimm, Nixon, Hastert, etc., etc. How is it sexist to comparing her on the same level as these men?"

Perhaps because, unlike them, she has never been found guilty of anything?

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 12:18pm

Unless, of course, you simply have the same expectations of any public servant no matter their gender.... then your point would be invalid. 

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 9/28/16 at 12:20pm

newintown said: ""Rangle [sic], Weiner, Spitzer, Grimm, Nixon, Hastert, etc., etc. How is it sexist to comparing her on the same level as these men?"

Perhaps because, unlike them, she has never been found guilty of anything?"

 

Ah, so guilt by association isn't a real thing anymore? Cool! I'll remember that!  See: 2009 Boeing-Russia deal and 2010 VCS Mining-Haiti investigation for more