Academy takes historic action to increase diversity — Page 2

DaveNeinSchnell!

"In the industry" isn't going to get anybody anywhere. Reflective of the general population would be the way to go. Get to 50.4 or 5% female and you're moving in the right direction.

All those old white guys who are going to be out of a job! Won't somebody please think of the old white guys?!?!

Taryn said: "1) The epitome of racism is not, in fact, diversifying the Academy membership. It's probably something more along the lines of, I dunno, hundreds of years of slavery based on skin color. You know, something along those lines."

The only thing that counts is 100% objectiveness. I seriously doubt that hundreds of years of slavery based on skin color works out well for that objectiveness if you put people in the Academy who have a big problem with that.

Updated On: 1/24/16 at 06:25 AM

If I were a black actor, I would send a thank you note to the academy, for NOT looking at race, but purely at performances. That is why it is PERFECTLY possible for a certain race to not be nominated in whatever season.

Forcing them to judge on race is the beginning of the end.

Deliberately maintaining that separation at every possible scenario is NOT the good fight.

The only thing that counts is 100% objectiveness. I seriously doubt that hundreds of years of slavery based on skin color works out well for that objectiveness if you but people in the Academy who have a big problem with that.

You're right, hundreds of years of slavery works out terrible for objectiveness. It's almost like it still has effects in the world today that limit the opportunities and recognition of people in color throughout tons of different industries, including film. It's almost like voting on Oscar nominees can't be 100% objective when white actors and artists are overwhelmingly given opportunity and publicity over artists of color.

And once again, there is nothing in the article about dictating who is nominated. It is about revising membership standards so that members who are no longer relevant to the industry -- those who have not been working in film for a decade -- are retired so that newer voices can be included in the conversation. You know all those studies about how boards of directors who have larger diversification actually bring greater profit? A diverse set of voices brings more ideas and creativity to the table than a homogenous one.

At least say what you mean: based on the history of Oscar nominations and wins, you think that white men are objectively a more talented group than any other.

Updated On: 1/24/16 at 11:03 AM

Taryn, I see your point, people no longer in the business can be replaced, but that has nothing to do with race.

Neither do the nominations for performances.

Anyone pulling race into this case is wrong.

Because race trolling makes his peepee hard.

FindingNamo said: "but saying there is no racism is."

Why on earth could it not be possible that your favourite race is not nominated in the top of each category? Please explain.

Just because you live by judging race, doesn't mean everyone else does that.

You seriously need a black guy, a gay guy and a 70+ person nominated because it makes you feel better, no matter their performances?

You really think the Academy would deliberately ignore an oscar winning performance completely because someone is black? If anything, they feel pressure too, because if you ask me (random example) Jennifer Hudson is not an outstanding actress at all and yet, she won. You really think this kind of pressure is right?

We should write a "thank you" note to the Academy for not looking at race. That is the beginning of a better world.

Ok, it's clear to me now. Because Dave is living in a dream world that has no racism, he trusts that everyone on the Academy Voting team lives there too, and that none of them is racist.

That is the most racist revelation you've made so far, Dave.

Still not answering my question. Why is any situation that does not happen to have a black person in it per definition racism?

That mindset is the problem. That mindset is racist. Because you pull race into anything.

Updated On: 1/24/16 at 12:22 PM

That's a trap.

Why don't you go LEARN a few things about racial bias and how it works instead of being SO GODDAM DEFENSIVE about white people? Go away, son, and grow up.