Antonin Scalia Has Died- Page 5
Antonin Scalia Has Died
Liza's Headband
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
#100Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/15/16 at 9:44am
Further, to PalJoey's point, Scalia actually requested that Obama nominate Justice Elena Kagan for a vacancy. His political views might have been horrendous but he was very close to many Liberals. He was from an era where people could "agree to disagree" in a civil way.
"Let me put a finer point on it," the justice said, in a lower, purposeful tone of voice, his eyes fixed on mine. "I hope he sends us Elena Kagan."
I was surprised that a member of the court would so bluntly propose a nominee, and intrigued that it was Kagan, the former Harvard Law School dean who was appointed solicitor general by Obama to represent the government before the Supreme Court. Though she had worked on policy in the Clinton administration and had a reputation for pragmatism, Kagan plainly would be a liberal in the context of the court.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/14/opinions/david-axelrod-surprise-request-from-justice-scalia/index.html
broadwayguy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/18/03
#101Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/15/16 at 10:53am
Scalia could agree to disagree in a civil way with people of similar standing.
That said, he did not agree to disagree in a civil way from the bench, where it mattered to the masses.
He have been a a principled man in certain areas, in his ideology, but he was not a principled man in his application of the law.
Scalia was a bigot. Scalia was ignorant. He may have had a brilliant mind for writing rulings, he may have been the unexpected hero of the marriage equality movement, but he was the epitome of what a SCOTUS Justice should NOT be - fiercely partisan in behavior and loved to play politics, openly touting how he knew how he would rule on a case before arguments were made regardless of what is presented,
The man is dead. The world is a brighter place. I hope it was a slow, lingering and scary death. The man doesn't deserve mercy or pity. His actions as a consequential public figure do not earn sadness from sane people.
(and while they are obviously vastly different, even Hitler had friends who were sad to see him die... So did Bin Laden. So?)
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#102Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/15/16 at 11:45am
His political views might have been horrendous but he was very close to many Liberals. He was from an era where people could "agree to disagree" in a civil way.
And then turn around and legislate in a way that hurt real people living real lives. But thank goodness for civility?
"agree to disagree"
Is this not rich, coming from the person who has said that people who don't vote the way he instructs (even though he doesn't vote) are "wastes of human life," "PsOS,' and other such genteel terms of endearment?
Still the living, breathing ZeroCredband.
#103Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/15/16 at 11:58am
Man, Kad's remarks/post on the previous page really got it Right! Thanks K!
#104Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/15/16 at 4:45pm
If Obama does indeed send up a nominee to replace Scalia, shouldn't candidate Ted Cruz recuse himself from the proceedings seeing that he sits on the Senate Judiciary Committee?
#105Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/15/16 at 6:14pm
Obama should nominate Tino Cuellar (link below). Blocking a Hispanic nominee will play really well in the general election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariano-Florentino_Cu%C3%A9llar
#106Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/15/16 at 6:17pm
Nobody proposed that we kill him or even hurt him when he was still alive.
Not in writing, anyhow.
#107Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/15/16 at 6:38pm
Madbrian, I thought his name sounded familiar. He's extremely accomplished but please check out his wife's bio. I'd like nothing more than to have a Supreme Justice like her who not only understands the intricacies of IP law, but also has keen insight into the business practices of Silicon Valley. Talk about a power couple in judicial circles.
#108Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/15/16 at 7:02pm
FindingNamo said: ""Broadway Fans and Folk"?"
I thought it was clever. Maybe not?
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#109Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/15/16 at 7:07pm
It's just an odd mix. How about Broadway People?
#110Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/15/16 at 8:01pm
Steve C. said: "Man, Kad's remarks/post on the previous page really got it Right! Thanks K!"
Thank you!
#111Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/16/16 at 4:32pm
PalJoey said: "
Once upon a time in America, I guess, we routinely agreed to disagree. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is a class act, and if she tells me Justice Antonin Scalia was an honorable man, well maybe he was.
But she and I can still agree to disagree.
" such a great way to think Pal Joey. If we keep antagonize people we do not agree with, they will not want to compromise. When they do not want to compromise, we will not want to either. That is cause of the mess.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#112Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/16/16 at 4:36pm
If we keep antagonize people we do not agree with, they will not want to compromise.
There is no thinking homosexual person who is aware of the court in the US who did not feel antagonized by Scalia.
#113Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/16/16 at 4:43pm
I understand what you said. But I am not saying you cannot disagree or not like or even despise someone based on his views. Of course you will and there is nothing wrong there. I just think when someone has died and people are mourning a respected person, a little respect goes a long way. Just put shoe on other foot if it was someone you respected, but was controversial Ruth Ginsburg? Jimmy Carter? in some of his decisions or his statements. You would naturally be angry at others for the disrespect. Which as I tried to say, would make you angry, or not wanting to compromise or find a middle ground.
#114Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/16/16 at 4:46pm
I F*CKing hate Jimmy Carter.
I can't wait for him to kick it.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#115Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/16/16 at 4:49pm
When this particular dead person was alive he didn't respect people whose lives his decisions had profound negative impacts on. So, nope. No propriety. No faux-civility. He earned none of that.
Jimmy Carter used to be your old screen name's bete noir too, Petrastorm.
#116Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/16/16 at 5:00pm
Petralicious said: "I understand what you said. But I am not saying you cannot disagree or not like or even despise someone based on his views. Of course you will and there is nothing wrong there. I just think when someone has died and people are mourning a respected person, a little respect goes a long way. Just put shoe on other foot if it was someone you respected, but was controversial Ruth Ginsburg? Jimmy Carter? in some of his decisions or his statements. You would naturally be angry at others for the disrespect. Which as I tried to say, would make you angry, or not wanting to compromise or find a middle ground.
"
Please find me a statement that RBG made that was nearly as vile as some of Scalia's about homosexuality. Or a statement from RBG stating that African-Americans should attend lower level colleges because they just aren't intelligent enough to hack it at a top school. I'd love to see those statements.
@z5
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/30/15
#117Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/16/16 at 11:42pm
I hope Obama does not get a chance to nominate someone new...he messed up this country enough as it is, including with race relations, and especially foreign policy!
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#118Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/16/16 at 11:47pm
Yes, it's not the racists who are the problem.
But of course he will nominate someone. It's his job.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
@z5
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/30/15
#120Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/16/16 at 11:56pm
It was also his job to take out ISIS 2 years ago, and to negotiate a decent deal with Iran, also to help Israel against the daily terrorism they face. But, he failed at those, all got with his agenda.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#121Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/16/16 at 11:58pm
"All got with his agenda"?
President Obama's 2017 budget removes all funding for abstinence-only sex education. Thanks, President Obama, for honoring science!
@z5
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/30/15
#122Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/17/16 at 12:00am
One thing? That's all he has done, I'm sorry but that is the least important issue. Also, thanks for mocking my learning disability, that is a part of it, sorry I am not as perfect as you.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#123Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/17/16 at 12:31am
Thanks for gas prices twice as low as Mitt Romney promised he'd get them, President Obama!! I'm glad to know you read BWW after seeing Hamilton twice!
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#124Antonin Scalia Has Died
Posted: 2/17/16 at 12:34am
President Obama!!! Thanks for taking that $1.4 trillion-with-a-t deficit Geoge W Bush left you with and reducing it to a $492 billion-with-a-b deficit!! xo
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