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RUkiddingme
Broadway Star Joined: 12/9/11
#151Chenoweth
Posted: 9/15/25 at 10:27am
I only stick to the facts that are known so far. It is what his family publicly says about his situation and their relationship. The authorities have presented the bullet inscriptions and the actual social media messages of the people in his circle who seem to have had prior knowledge are out there for everyone to see. So are his posts on the other platforms.
I'm sure there will be more info eventually but this is what we have so far. The fact that you call facts from the family, authorities and literal posted messages of his circle "crap" is beyond me.
#152Chenoweth
Posted: 9/15/25 at 10:44am
Seb28 said: "Kad said: "It's absolutely a distraction, as are their desperate attempts to link this to trans people."
Let's look at the actual facts instead of beating around the bush with that kind of distractions.
The family and friends of the killer claim that he had become a radicalized leftist. Usually internet, universities and (friend)groups or partners are the main reasons for that.
He was dating a trans guy (or transgirl, however you want to put it). 6 trans people in their circle posted descriptions of the killing in the days and weeks before the killing. All with the date September 10th added. Tyler's transgender partner is friends with a transgender account on TikTok that goesby the name "churbum75m (saw Tyler June 30th)". Minutes after Charlie was confirmed dead this transgender posted "WE F*CKING DID IT". Another account in their group, "TallyHallAlbum" had said on september 3rd: "it'd be funny if someone like charlie kirk got shot on september 10th LMAO". Another account in their friendlist, trans group and Utah area (altulige) had posted: "september 10th will be a very interesting day". And another account (NajraGalvz) had posted a day before the killing: "Charlie kirk is coming to my college tomorrow maybe someone evaporatehim literally. Let's just say something big will happen tomorrow". There are now 6 known people in his circle that seem to have had prior knowlegde of the killing.
Aside from that, two of the bullets found in Tyler's rifle had engravings consistent with radical far left transgender ideology. "Notices bulge OwO" is a reference to "chasers", gay men who like trans women. Noticing the trans man's "bulge". Also known as GAMP. Which means he is attracted to transgenders. The other bullet had engraved "Catch fascist" which is self explanatory. He was also a member of Antifa, he dressed in all black, and he was a member of a pro-trans and gay movement. One of the other bullets had the text: "If you read this you are gay LMAO" ingraved, which was obviously meant as a"funny" insult to Kirk, because the shooter incorrectly assumed that Kirk would take that as an insult or would be against that.
We also know that Tyler was very active on transgender discords. A hotbed for radicalization and far left extremism. The question is, who else were involved in the planning?
According to his father Tyler had no rifle in his possession and never had weapon training, so who gave the rifle to him? It seems like a combined effort involving multiple people and meticulous planning.
By the way, Charlie never claimedtrans people do not exist. He only asked people "what is a woman" and made the statement that young children should not be exposed to these medications,things like that. Personally I am just interested in facts. Of coursetrans peopledo exist and they should have the same rights as everyone else. Because is a person their brain or the shape of some body parts?I think it's both. And some people are lucky that these things match, while others find out that it doesn't match.To the people say "trans men are not real women", I would like to say: True, but nobody is claiming that. That's why they are trans women, born with a female brain and a male body" (or vice versa). Nobody claims they are naturally born women. There isn't even a discussion, there is room for all of it. We should just name it for what it is and not pretend anything else.
The same goes for this case and all the details that are coming out. The fact is that killing someone over a politicalopinion is radical. And that there is no need at all for attacking people who express grief over it or who mention the facts. As is happening in this thread. Because that's quite radical as well.
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Actually, we don’t know any of this.
#153Chenoweth
Posted: 9/15/25 at 10:59am
Exactly. The only people publishing those rumors are right-leaning news sites. There has been no statement from any official at any level about any of this.
(And the extra tell in that heinous post was the constant confusing of genders, plus the conservative made up term "transgenders". It's a slur in plural, think "the blacks".)
Back Row
Leading Actor Joined: 4/14/12
#154Chenoweth
Posted: 9/15/25 at 11:05am
Those "facts" have a distinct Q-anon feel to them. Not just a sprinkle of additional information, but a detailed, thorough narrative that is usually found on fan fiction sites. I have seen some theories that support the narrative that the shooter had been radicalized by the right, was a devotee of Nick Fuentes, and shot Kirk because he was too "moderate". Equally as detailed and equally as agenda driven as that load of crap I just read here.
RUkiddingme
Broadway Star Joined: 12/9/11
#155Chenoweth
Posted: 9/15/25 at 11:14am
Seb28 said: "I only stick to the facts that are known so far. It is what his family publicly says about his situation and their relationship. The authorities have presented the bullet inscriptions and the actual social media messages of the people in his circlewho seem to havehad prior knowledge are out there for everyone to see. So are his posts on the other platforms.
I'm sure there will be more info eventually but this is what we have so far. The fact that you call facts from the family, authorities and literal posted messages of his circle "crap" is beyond me."
So let me get this straight - anything his parents say is suddenly a fact? They have no bias?
Matt Rogers
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/4/04
#156Chenoweth
Posted: 9/15/25 at 11:26am
Seb28 said: "I only stick to the facts that are known so far. It is what his family publicly says about his situation and their relationship. The authorities have presented the bullet inscriptions and the actual social media messages of the people in his circlewho seem to havehad prior knowledge are out there for everyone to see. So are his posts on the other platforms.
I'm sure there will be more info eventually but this is what we have so far. The fact that you call facts from the family, authorities and literal posted messages of his circle "crap" is beyond me."
And white people are a minority on Broadway. Sure thing, sweetie. You are a compulsive liar and by this point, everyone on here should know it. You learned well from your orange cult leader. Lie often. Lie loudly. And never back down, even when confronted by pesky facts.
blug
Swing Joined: 12/27/17
#158Chenoweth
Posted: 9/15/25 at 2:41pm
Thanks for all your reactions, but they have no relation to what I actually posted.
Anyway, research shows that nearly half of Gen Z thinks violence over political opinions is acceptable. In previous generations such as the Baby Boomers this was only 2%. That’s a problem. We need deradicalization programs on universities, (online)platforms and public organizations.
ER765
Stand-by Joined: 3/12/14
Matt Rogers
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/4/04
#160Chenoweth
Posted: 9/15/25 at 6:22pm
Seb28 said: "Thanks for all your reactions, but they have no relation to what I actually posted.
Anyway, research shows that nearly half of Gen Z thinks violence over political opinions is acceptable. In previous generations such as the Baby Boomers this was only 2%. That’s a problem. We need deradicalization programs on universities, (online)platforms and public organizations."
Oh by all means, Professor, please grace the rest of us peons with the source of your so called “research”.
SteveSanders
Featured Actor Joined: 3/29/25
#161Chenoweth
Posted: 9/15/25 at 9:25pm
Here is the source of the research Seb cited:
"Why Do So Many Young Americans Justify Political Violence?
Ninety-three percent of baby boomers think it’s never acceptable. Only 56% of Gen Z agrees."
WSJ article:
https://archive.li/tMEDS
Excerpt:
"The good news is that nearly 80% of Americans reject efforts to silence speech they find personally offensive, with large majorities of Democrats (77%), independents (80%) and Republicans (82%) all saying violence is never acceptable.
"The bad news is that the story changes dramatically when looking across generations. While 93% of baby boomers and 86% of Generation X say violence is never acceptable, only 71% of millennials and 58% of Generation Z do. And, there’s no meaningful difference between the attitudes of 18- to 26-year-olds who are and who aren’t enrolled in college.
"These findings puncture two comfortable myths: that only “the other side” is supporting political violence and that colleges and universities are solely responsible for it."
#162Chenoweth
Posted: 9/16/25 at 12:59am
Jordan Catalano said: "Jennifer Coolidge follows Kirk on IG. I guess we (the gays) turn our back her now, too."
I genuinely can’t even tell if this post is a parody or not at this point. Are you satirically pointing out how crazy this mindless cult is or are you calling for it to happen?
When my goodbye post was removed: “but I had a great dramatic finish!!!!”
verywellthensigh
Broadway Star Joined: 6/14/22
#163Chenoweth
Posted: 9/16/25 at 12:59pm
I love the "should we or should we not use political violence in the U.S.?" hand-wringer like the U.S. is otherwise incapable of political violence. Someone dying because of a denied insurance claim is violence. The Sackler Family--still unpunished--funding opioid deaths in the hundreds of thousands is violence. Police sweeping homeless encampments is violence. And lets not even start with the bloodthirsty violence of our insane forever wars.
Boomers ultimately had a childhood in an America where these sort of things either didn't happen or were heavily, heavily kept from the public's knowledge. Gen Z never had that privilege so of course they have a different attitude about it. It's really not that hard to wrap your head around.
WiCkEDrOcKS
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/13/04
#164Chenoweth
Posted: 9/16/25 at 1:03pm
binau said: "Jordan Catalano said: "Jennifer Coolidge follows Kirk on IG. I guess we (the gays) turn our back her now, too."
I genuinely can’t even tell if this post is a parody or not at this point. Are you satirically pointing out how crazy this mindless cult is or are you calling for it to happen?
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You really think that people who decide not to support celebrities who listen to / follow dangerous individuals like Charlie Kirk are the ones in a cult? Lord.
#165Chenoweth
Posted: 9/16/25 at 6:09pm
verywellthensigh said: "Boomers ultimately had a childhood in an America where these sort of things either didn't happen or were heavily, heavily kept from the public's knowledge. Gen Z never had that privilege so of course they have a different attitude about it. It's really not that hard to wrap your head around."
Boomers never got to hear about it when a public figure was assassinated by intolerant leftists who couldn't handle their opinion and because they didn't hear about it while in reality it did happen and the public figure did disappear, they were more against violent attacks than Gen Z is?
ER765
Stand-by Joined: 3/12/14
#166Chenoweth
Posted: 9/16/25 at 6:17pm
Seb28 said: "verywellthensigh said: "Boomers ultimately had a childhood in an America where these sort of things either didn't happen or were heavily, heavily kept from the public's knowledge. Gen Z never had that privilege so of course they have a different attitude about it. It's really not that hard to wrap your head around."
Boomers never got to hear about it when a public figure was assassinated by intolerant leftists who couldn't handle their opinion and because they didn't hear about it while in reality it did happen and the public figure did disappear, they were more against violent attacks than Gen Z is?"
The fact that this is one incomprehensible, run on sentence is the cherry on top of your ignorant rants on this board.
No BWW ban? No problem. Block feature: implemented.
I hope you get help!
MB124
Stand-by Joined: 8/19/22
#168Chenoweth
Posted: 9/16/25 at 6:53pm
Seb28 said: "Why is it that the lives of a certain group of people revolve around eliminating people they don't agree with? That's worrying."
You’re not our friend. You’re not our family. You’re not our coworker. You are not someone we are obligated to engage with because you have proven yourself to be dangerous, antagonistic, and frankly, unhinged. No one’s calling for your m*rder. They’re calling for you to be removed from this board because you have repeatedly crossed the line and broken the guidelines and rules set in place for this forum.
Looks like the mods don’t care though. Thanks to the block feature, this will be the last post of yours I’ll have to see.
PS: you do realize our “lives” don’t “revolve” around you or this message board, right? We all have actual lives. Like in the real world. Hope you do, too - although it’s not looking promising.
#169Chenoweth
Posted: 9/17/25 at 9:16am
MB124 said: "You’re not our friend. You’re not our family. You’re not our coworker. You are not someone we are obligated to engage with because you have proven yourself to be dangerous, antagonistic, and frankly, unhinged.
Thanks to the block feature, this will be the last post of yours I’ll have to see."
Maybe hiding from reality is indeed the best thing you can do for your sanity. Because clearly you can't handle content-related discussions with people you disagree with.
The group you are constantly attacking has always been reasonable, you really can say anything to them and they will respond with substantiated replies. They never stoop to the behavior you are displaying here, a complete post with just personal attacks and nothing else. You should be thankful for them and learn from them.
The only thing we all are on here is members on a discussion board. This is clearly not the place for you.
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