Election 2024 — Page 29

"You all" still never learn. I will keep trying though. I was repulsed by an extraordinarily ugly riot. Not not a big deal. You overstate what occurred, and you believe I understate it. That's fair. But "you all" aren't interested in fair, and it does not appear you have any idea what fair is. You go too far and butcher the argument you argue against and then argue against the butchered version.

I OBVIOUSLY don't believe another repulsive riot will occur, so Jay, your comment is absurd. You're better than South Florida (which isn't a high bar), but I believe you can do far better. Please recognize that and try.

One more week.

Now I await Kamala Harris's "Closing Argument" this evening at the site of the wannabe dictator's January 6th crime scene. I have made numerous donations to the Harris/Walz campaign (and other Democratic candidates, as well). I have voted by mail, and my vote has been counted. I have posted Kamala's photo at our front door. Wherever and whenever possible, I have sung the praises of the Democratic Party that I have loved since childhood. I have done what I can to help ensure that we survive as a Nation that embraces ALL our citizens.

KAMALA/WALZ 2024 !!

"Now I await Kamala Harris's "Closing Argument" this evening at the site of the wannabe dictator's January 6th crime scene. I have made numerous donations to the Harris/Walz campaign (and other Democratic candidates, as well). I have voted by mail, and my vote has been counted. I have posted Kamala's photo at our front door. Wherever and whenever possible, I have sung the praises of the Democratic Party that I have loved since childhood. I have done what I can to help ensure that we survive as a Nation that embraces ALL our citizens."

You really are full of yourself -lol. Try being humble and stop patting yourself on the back. I will sum up VP Harris closing argument in a few words. "Trump is evil" -lol

Zeppie2022 said: "I will sum up VP Harris closing argument in a few words. "Trump is evil" -lol"

As someone who would never have voted for a Democrat before 2016, that is indeed the beginning and the end of the argument for me. Kamala Harris might be just a normal crappy politician, but it's continually shocking to me that anyone thinks that Donald Trump is a plausible choice to be president under any circumstances.

Very enthusiastic crowd waiting for our next President's speech at the Ellipse. Brilliant move to have the Ellipse as the location for what is being called the most important speech of Harris's life.

FREEDOM !!.

Updated On: 10/29/24 at 07:32 PM

"Pauly3, since you don't believe #45 cheated on any of his wives, here's an article that details his affairs and the numerous allegations that at least 26 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct, with allegations stretching back to the 1970s and running through 2016"

Mind boggling that you make this point about Trump. Bill Clinton had oral sex with an intern in the place (White House) that he lived with his wife and daughter. He also had rape and sex accusations from several women. That was ok back then because Democrats told us you can separate his personal life from his ability to do the job. Had many affairs did JFK have in short time he was POTUS? That was ok because he was handsome charismatic Democratic POTUS. Of course, Trump cheated on his wives, that is not exactly a news flash. It is not something to be proud of, but most people really don't seem to care about it anymore from people who run for office.

Zeppie2022 said: "Because while Donald Trump may personally be horrible human being, millions ofpeople think the country was better off when he was POTUS than now. We shall see in a week."

To be honest, I don't think presidents have much control over how well off I am. But if I did, I'd point out that there's only one time in my 51 years that I had to scrounge around for toilet paper and ground beef, and that was under Trump's watch.

But also: don't ever vote for a horrible human being. If you think all of the candidates are horrible human beings, leave that line blank or write someone in. There is no excuse for taking part in the election of a horrible human being as president or anything else.

Updated On: 10/29/24 at 11:32 PM

ACL2006 said: "Pauly3, since you don't believe #45 cheated on any of his wives, here's an article that details his affairs and the numerous allegations that at least 26 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct, with allegations stretching back to the 1970s and running through 2016.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stormy-daniels-affairs-marriages-timeline-2018-3#at-least-26-women-have-accused-trump-of-sexual-misconduct-with-allegations-stretching-back-to-the-1970s-and-running-through-2016-5"



I never said I believe Trump never cheated on his wives. I said I have no idea if that is true or not. I then referred to others who cheated on their wives who you likely support, which negated your point even if you were 100% correct that Trump cheated on all of his wives. You want to have it both ways, accuse me of being perfectly fine with Trump (someone I DON"T admire) cheating on his wives and excuse the same behavior of people you DO admire. This is just another case where "you all" butcher my argument and then argue against the butchered version.

If my argument is so incorrect or bad, you shouldn't need to distort it to argue against it.

South Florida said: "Paul was appalled. He thoroughly rejected your claims about 34 convictions, cheated on wives, paid off porn star, ties to Proud Boys, no plan, and would be fine if Vance took over and started shooting people, not funny. If you check those beefs are not mine, they are ancillary. But hestill hasn't answered my questions about climate change, and Russia love. Is NATO dumb, should we allie with Putin?"

Continued distortions. The accurate version is:

1. Yes, I was appalled by what occurred on Jan. 6th, but not to the extent you were - because we disagree on the actual crimes committed as well as the level of Trump's direct or indirect involvement.
   
2. Yes, I did reject the 34 convictions, because, given the circumstances in which the charges were brought, the entire charade was absurd.
   
3. I did NOT reject the allegation Trump cheated on his wives. I stated I didn't know and added context that indicated the point was moot due to similar behavior AND support of other prominent figures that indicated (to anyone who can be bothered to reason) that arguing Trump's cheating is hypocritical.
   
4. I did NOT reject paying off a porn star. I rejected the porn star's credibility based on what she herself wrote in her book.
   
5. I did NOT reject ties to Proud Boys. I questioned it, because I am unfamiliar with said "Proud Boys" and unfamiliar with any ties.
   
6. I do NOT reject anything of the sort that Trump has no plan. I indicated IF that is true, I'd rather he do nothing than have Harris at the helm. I have previously stated I think Trump will do much of what he did in his first term, so that isn't exactly "no plan".
   
7. I did indicate I would be fine if Vance was at the helm, however I did NOT indicate I would be fine if he started shooting people. Knowing "you all" will attack for frivolous and ridiculous reason's I guess I should have clarified and specifically stated I would be OK with Vance at the helm but not with shooting anyone. I guess that was my bad, given I know the level of absurdity you will go to.

When you can demonstrate reasonableness - and stop playing games, I will answer any question you like.

Republicans tend to ignore who the Proud Boys are, but they're frequently at his rallies and have ties to January 6. A simple Google search would lead to know their history.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-09-20/proud-boys-trump-violence-authoritarian

Zeppie said "Trump cheated on his wives, that is not exactly a news flash. It is not something to be proud of, but most people really don't seem to care about it anymore from people who run for office."

From men who run for office. You really think if Kamala (or any other woman) had numerous affairs, numerous husbands, numerous children with different men etc. that nobody would care? She'd be called a sl#t, trash, and more. She never would have gotten the Veep job, never mind top of the ticket. Such is society. This is never a level playing field.

"To be honest, I don't think presidents have much control over how well off I am. But if I did, I'd point out that there's only one time in my 51 years that I had to scrounge around for toilet paper and ground beef, and that was under Trump's watch."

Gee. I wonder if worldwide pandemic had anything to do with that situation. That is really lame "Kdogg", you can do better -lol. BTW - you were going around scrounging for toilet paper because idiot people were buying up way more than was needed and caused the shortage.