Finished Deathly Hallows? SPOILERS WILL PROBABLY ABOUND.- Page 10

[uncageg]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 3:08pm

Right. I was actually responding to the post that said the storyline was there from the beginning. Rowlings may have known what she was going to do with the hollows but I don't remember it being mentioned in the 1st book. Seems like she was setting it up for the final book. I am assuming Dumbledore knew all of the time that the cloak was part of the hallows.

[Magdalene]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 4:12pm

JKR says in the "Today" interview that the encyclopedia will have backstories, etc.

I can't believe Mr. Weasley was originally slated to die---I'm glad he got that reprieve!!

[caitiesus1522]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 4:14pm

The hallows were not mentioned, but that the cloak was in it from the beginning means that they were in it from the beginning. It was another one of many many things that we did not know the importance of until much later after we were introduced to it.

And I think she knew what the Hallows were in that first book and used to cloak to set it up from the beginning!

And Jason is now done so I have someone to talk to about it! Yay!

[jasonf]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 4:26pm

As Caitie just posted (man, you just got on here while I was reading through the thread!), I just finished (I don't have the patience to just sit and read - I needed to stretch it out over a couple of days. I really enjoyed it and felt it was a great ending to the series. Things I really loved:

-- Mrs. Weasly - they better not cut that moment from the movie
-- The scene with the dead adults as Harry walked to his "death"
-- Ron and Hermione's first kiss
-- When I went back to look at the sixth book again for the chapter about the room of requirement and the diadem is actually in the picture at the head of the chapter on the bust!
-- Snape's story.

I also loved that I was right in all my insistence over the last year that Harry was a Horcrux (sorry Caitie, told you so) and that Snape wasn't evil (sorry to all my students, told YOU so).
The only thing I didn't really like was that Ron and Hermione completely disappeared for the last 200 pages of the book. I get that it was Harry's story, but what I love so much about the books is the story of how the two supported him - how he couldn't have done any of it without them. I felt that it was a let down that they weren't involved in the end battle really at all.

Anyone know why she chose the names Rose and Hugo?

[Pippin]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 4:30pm

I imagined that the rose is her favorite flower, and since she is such an intellectual, her son's namesake is from Victor Hugo.

[jasonf]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 5:12pm

I figured that on Hugo also, but couldn't really make a connection between the books and his work -- other than the use of gargoyles and a student uprising...and I guess Alan Rickman could play Javert...

[GuitarGirl]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 7:03pm

I was surprised by the "Harry is a Horcrux". I've heard so many people deny that, and so I just never gave it a thought. But it was an excellent twist.

[DG]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 7:24pm

"Mrs. Weasly - they better not cut that moment from the movie"

If, by chance, they don't leave it in, just go rent ALIENS - Ms. Weaver gives that exact line one hell of a delivery.

Personally, I thought it was a bit of a betrayal of Mrs. Weasley's character. Not the INTENT - that didn't surprise me at all - but that kind of outburst in front of her children (actually, just in general,) no matter the circumstances, just didn't ring true with me.

[GuitarGirl]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 7:58pm

I guess, in Mrs. Weasley's situation, it just drove her too far. As in, "You do NOT mess with my kids."

Besides, her kids are old enough to have heard that kind of language before.

[~FloweryFriend~]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 9:30pm

On the subject of Rosie & Hugo... they have the same initials as Ron & Hermione. I imagine that has something to do with it.

[GuitarGirl]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 9:45pm

I didn't notice that! That's an interesting theory.

[jasonf]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 10:06pm

FloweryFriend - good point! I didn't notice that either!

I didn't think, given the situation, it was a stretch for Mrs. Weasley at all.

[GuitarGirl]

Posted: 7/25/07 at 10:13pm

Mrs. Weasley is like a lioness mother protecting her cubs. If you threaten them-WATCH OUT.

[uncageg]

Posted: 7/26/07 at 12:29am

Mrs. Weasley's outburst caught me off guard also. I actually kind of chuckled and I got an instant vision of Sigourney Weaver calling the alien a b**ch. The ironic thing is that Mrs. Weaver has a new Direct TV commercial out recreating that very scene. And I saw a day after finishing the book.

Updated On: 7/26/07 at 12:29 AM

[wonderwaiter]

Posted: 7/26/07 at 2:02am

"NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU BITCH" is incontrovertibly my favorite sentence in the entirety of the Harry Potter franchise.

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 7/26/07 at 3:20am

Mrs Weasley has always proven to be a lioness when her family was in danger. I thought it was the perfect culmination of her story--the death of one of her sons (and probably reliving the nightmare of losing her brothers) drove her to the edge and gave her strength she never knew she had.

They didn't disappear in the final 200 pages. They destroyed one of the horcruxes and then were involved in the battle at Hogwarts. The finale of the book gave some of the other characters a chance to shine after not appearing for most of the book. Then the first people Harry went to the first chance he got after the battle were Ron and Hermione.

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 7/26/07 at 3:40am

[GuitarGirl]

Posted: 7/26/07 at 8:53am

I'm glad Neville killed the snake. He needed to do something, and he was awesome in this book! And I love his future job...

[Patronus]

Posted: 7/26/07 at 9:41am

Personally, I thought it was a bit of a betrayal of Mrs. Weasley's character. Not the INTENT - that didn't surprise me at all - but that kind of outburst in front of her children (actually, just in general,) no matter the circumstances, just didn't ring true with me.

I get what you mean in theory, but I actually think Rowling set us up for this moment in Order of the Phoenix. When Mrs. Weasley saw the boggart and it appeared as her family members dead, I think it set the stage. People do incredible and disturbing things that could easily be considered out of character when faced with their worst fears. I think the danger of losing her youngest child right in front her pushed Molly to the breaking point and given what we already know about her character from previous installments it made the outburst perfectly justifiable.


Updated On: 7/26/07 at 09:41 AM

[GuitarGirl]

Posted: 7/26/07 at 10:00am

Especially since it was Bellatrix threatening Ginny, and Mrs. Weasley probably knew that Bellatrix would have no problem killing someone so young.

[Lindsay Hameister]

Posted: 7/26/07 at 10:23am

I wanted to finish the book before reading the forums, and finally i finished it...(stupid having a job and responsibilities!) I loved this book! although I have to admit I had a bit of a hollow feeling at the end like, "oook thats it, no more...." by far my favorite line in the book was what Mrs. Wesley said! and i cried my eyes out when i read that Fred died, I LOVE the Wesley twins! the epilogue was a bit... thrown together. I liked the idea, but as far as the writing was concerned I don't know I felt it could have been better and I knew all along that Snape was good and that harry was a Horcurx :)

[DG]

Posted: 7/26/07 at 10:27am

I don't necessarily feel there was anything overtly wrong with Mrs. Weasley's outburst - as I said, it made perfect sense from the standpoint of motivation (ya gotta love the mother tigress syndrom.) I just thought it stood out in an odd way from the whole series in general - it seemed kind of 'common', I guess. But, obviously, Jo got her desired effect - everybody everywhere seems to love it!

[GuitarGirl]

Posted: 7/26/07 at 10:51am

I can see icons, posters, ect. made from that one quote. :P

[Wildcard]

Posted: 7/26/07 at 11:24am

I know I should probably just reread the book but what spell did Mrs. Weasley use to kill Bellatrix? Avada Kedavra? I don't remember reading about her saying it or a green flash of light heading towards Bella.

[GuitarGirl]

Posted: 7/26/07 at 11:27am

It just says that Molly's curse hit Bellatrix in the chest and she (Bellatrix) fell and...was dead. I guess we can assume it was the Killing Curse.