Hostel- Page 2

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 1/3/06 at 5:37pm

You're right, we can't really comment for sure until the movie comes out, I'm just talking about what I've read in early reviews. Even the positive ones I have read comment on the lack of character development.

[broadway86]

Posted: 1/3/06 at 5:42pm

Fair enough. The thing is... most people don't go to these films for characters and story. They want to see a girl's head impaled on a sharp, rusty pipe.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 1/3/06 at 5:46pm

I suppose...
It just seems that recently filmakers have taken the horror out of horror movies and just replaced it with gore. I'm not really oppossed to gore or violence on film, but when the sole purpose of a film is to show people being slain it looses it's punch and just becomes a boring gore-fest.

[justme2]

Posted: 1/3/06 at 5:53pm

Amen.

[broadway86]

Posted: 1/3/06 at 6:21pm

but when the sole purpose of a film is to show people being slain it looses it's punch and just becomes a boring gore-fest.

Very true. But, Roth seems to be a huge fan of the genre, and I'm interested to see whether or not he has more up his sleeve than we expect.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 1/3/06 at 6:24pm

Eli Roth is an obnoxious hack and early word on this one is that it is incredibly homophobic (gay guy gets his face pushed in a toilet full of his own feces) and woman hating (the rest of the movie). Enjoy!

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 1/3/06 at 6:31pm

Here's a snippet from an early review:

It lurches along with a wilful rejection of intelligence and sensitivity for fear of emasculation--"****" and "faggot" the two words its heroes use most often in Hostel's and thus, as Dr. Phil would tell you, the two things author Roth probably most fears that he is. The result of that puerility in its creation (maybe creator) is a film that bends over backwards to punish women and homosexuals; Hostel is unrepentantly, unselfconsciously leering, and so ugly on the topic of gay men that it reserves its nastiest, ugliest punishments for quiet schlep Josh (Derek Richardson) and the older Dutch man (Jan Vlasák) in whom he may be interested. Tellingly, the one vivisects the other before encountering his personal Waterloo in a train station's public water closet, his pants around his ankles and his head in a toilet full of his own waste. It's where queers go to die in movies made by homophobes.

[broadway86]

Posted: 1/3/06 at 7:07pm

Enjoy!

Ummm... Thanks?

[JerseyGirl2]

Posted: 1/3/06 at 7:24pm

Well, is it homophobic for other reasons than a guy getting his face pushed in the toilet? Does that make the movie homophobic? Wouldn't it be the same if the guy happened to be straight? Perhaps there is more to it than that, but if not, I don't see the argument. I mean, House of Wax wasn't considered TrashyTrampPhobic for impaling Paris on the rusty pipe. (Though now that I think about it, there is a bit of a parallel there.)

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 1/3/06 at 8:07pm

I stay away from these slice & dice films at all costs. Paying to see people killed in grisly ways does not do it for me. It is creeper, to me , to show less gore & leave it to your imagination whgich can be much scarier

[justme2]

Posted: 1/3/06 at 11:36pm

agreed. This is why I refer creepy movies like Night of the Hunter. Why don't they try remaking that instead of creating gruesome stuff like Hostel?

Wait.....I take that back. I don't want Night of the Hunter messed with by anyone.

[BlueWizard]

Posted: 1/3/06 at 11:42pm

I don't consider these serious slasher films all that great. I think gore is most (if not only) effective if it's self-consciously artificial and done for a laugh, like the EVIL DEAD series -- a celebration of the artifice of film and its potential to whip up a fright. The best serious horror flicks are those that hold back the blood and guts in favour of creating a foreboding, tense mood. Really, can someone name three truly great horror films that exploited bloody violence in a serious manner?

Updated On: 1/3/06 at 11:42 PM

[Lamc16]

Posted: 1/4/06 at 1:56am

i watched a bunch of clips from this movie and i can tell you that the trailer does not do it justice. the clips are absolutely HORRIFYING!

[Lamc16]

Posted: 1/4/06 at 2:00am

see for youself (if you have the stomach for it)...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450278/board/thread/32577145

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 1/7/06 at 1:22pm

So has anyone seen this yet? I'm debating on going this afternoon.

[kate2]

Posted: 1/7/06 at 8:29pm

One of my friends is seeing it now. I was supposed to go, but i chickened out!

[broadway86]

Posted: 1/7/06 at 10:19pm

Saw it today. I loved it. It's the first movie in 2006 that is worth seeing. If you're a horror movie fan check it out. It is frightening, brave, relevant, and disturbing without ever being self-indulgent or exploitative. The performances are good, too. Check it out.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 1/7/06 at 10:22pm

Is there any type of social message or is it more just to see what type of censor envelopes they can push? (I've only got a very vague idea of the plot.)

[broadway86]

Posted: 1/7/06 at 10:34pm

Tiff-

There are really interesting sociological points that the film raises. The idea of people shutting off their consciences when it comes to torturing and killing strangers - from other countries, no less - is chilling. It doesn't even have to be true. Just the idea that it is possible is scarier than anything in the movies.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 1/7/06 at 10:38pm

I know what you mean about the idea being scarier than anything else - that's how I felt about Saw in a sense. And I think it was either here or on IMDB where someone mentioned that the film was actually inspired by someone telling the writer about a website where people can pay $100k to torture and kill someone, and the writer mentioned it to Quentin, who ran with it.

What was the audience reception like?

[beacon1]

Posted: 1/7/06 at 10:41pm

What was the audience's reaction to the trailer for "Hard Candy".
That film will be very intense...

[broadway86]

Posted: 1/7/06 at 10:43pm

beacon-

I got into the theatre just as the movie started. Who is in Hard Candy?

Tiff-

The audience seemed to really get into it, laughing, applauding, and screaming in the appropriate places. I'd rate the movie ***1/2 out of four.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 1/7/06 at 10:45pm

I feel like I've heard of "Hard Candy" but I can't put my finger on it.

And can I just say how much I'm looking forward to Queen Latifah's new movie? Looks silly and corny, but it taps into the hedonistic desires I'd let loose if I only had 3 weeks to live.

3.5/4, eh? How do you compare it to Saw? (Apples and oranges, I know, but it's the only other film I can think of with similar hype.)

[beacon1]

Posted: 1/7/06 at 10:48pm

"Hard Candy" is an intense psychological thriller starring Patrick Wilson and Ellen Page. He plays a thirty-something photographer who meets up with a 14 year old girl via the internet. They meet at a coffee shop, she goes home with him. Does he have something in mind? Does SHE have an agenda. It's a real cat-n-mouse thrill ride that got major buzz at Sundance and won top awards at SITGES.

Here's a link to the trailer that is attached to "Hostel"
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2456381?htv=12

Updated On: 1/7/06 at 10:48 PM

[broadway86]

Posted: 1/7/06 at 10:53pm

beacon-

That movie sounds interesting.

Tiff-

On my 2004 film diary, I gave "Saw" two stars. Many viewings later, that still stands as a fair enough rating. The idea is good, there are a few scary moments, and some of the camera tricks were really cool. But, the acting is dreadful and the two lead characters are absolute morons. Still, it's not a movie that I would ever turn off. What did you think of "Saw 2"? Personally, I thought it was an improvement. Updated On: 1/7/06 at 10:53 PM