Is it safe to put a fork in Chris Christie?- Page 4

[Marianne2]

Posted: 1/9/14 at 5:27pm

Because Corzine absolutely is relevant to this thread. Can I just ask you 1 question Mr. Roxy. Just put your hatred for Democrats aside for a moment. Was this a really stupid thing to do regardless of Christie being involved or not? You don't see any issues with people being spiteful and hurting innocent people for what seems to be a stupid prank because someone did not endorse Christie?

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 1/9/14 at 5:28pm

and his message about Bridget seems to be: "I had no idea. Crazy beeyatch overstepped her authority and took it on herself to punish the Fort Lee mayor for something she only imagined him to do, since we never asked him and he never said no. At any rate, I fired her and I have the sadz because I trusted her and believed her when I texted her and asked DIDUDOTHIS and she texted back UCRAZEE? NUH-UH!"

^^^ FVCKING AMAZING POST!!! I've just shared it with my team and we are all laughing their @sses off because it is so ON POINT!!

This whole debacle is a disgrace for everyone involved. They were trying to get back at the Mayor of Fort Lee and they wound up hurting the citizens of New Jersey. UNACCEPTABLE! OFF WITH ALL OF THEIR HEADS!!

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/9/14 at 6:18pm

The answer is toes obvs, Marianne. No one ever gets called to task ever again unless what happened on their watch is as bad or worse that what Corzine did. Unless it's Joe Biden, who gets nailed for every gaf (sic) and fooax-pooas (sic). But not Sarah Palin.

Hope that helps.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 1/9/14 at 8:01pm

Hold the fork guys.

To Marianne. Normally I do not see your responses because they are blocked. Curiosity got the better of me here. Now I see why I have you blocked.

You say my hatred of democrats. You are one to talk about fair-mindedness .The democrats could run a dresser drawer for office and the Republican candidate could be Abraham Lincoln. Your hatred of anyone not a democrat is over the top. I, unlike you, do not hate anyone. I do not agree with most positions of democrats but keep an open mind on issues. I have changed my mind a number of times. You would never change your mind if a gun was held to your head

You are assuming Christie is guilty no matter what. Your statement's re Corzine are ludicrous. He is being sued left and right by people who have lost their money. Anyone else would have been jailed long ago. Corzine was a greedy rich guy who did not need the money but committed his crimes anyway. Obama was really enamored with him but you never hear that.

I have blocked a few on this board as, like you, they cannot have a rational conversation with anyone who disagrees with them. Instead of debating an issue you name call and smear. Shows how weak your positions are

I believe Christie. If proven he was involved he should be punished. Shocked you there didn't I? Will you say you are wrong if he is exonerated? Somehow I doubt it .

Do not waste to much time ripping into me after this as I will not be curious again .

Have a nice day.

Updated On: 1/9/14 at 08:01 PM

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 1/9/14 at 10:14pm

Is there a tutorial for the ignore button?

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 1/9/14 at 10:17pm

"I believe Christie. If proven he was involved he should be punished. Shocked you there didn't I?"

No….because you said you believed him. What was there for us not to be shocked over?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/9/14 at 10:26pm

The conservative Daily Caller on the upside-down situation in which conservatives are attacking Christie and liberals are defending him.


DAILY CALLER: As liberals support Christie during scandal, conservatives abandon him

[romantico]

Posted: 1/9/14 at 10:37pm

Rachel Maddow is getting into a new theory on the why of Christie's retribution against Ft Lee, NJ. Pretty interesting stuff here.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maddow-nj-bridge-scandal-was-political-revenge-but-maybe-not-for-the-reason-you-think%E2%80%A6/

Updated On: 1/9/14 at 10:37 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 12:10am

Democrats are defending Christie and conservatives are attacking him? Uh oh. Looks like Mr Polly didn't get the memo? Will he s till get his cracker?

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 8:35am

Hey, I got another PM from Mr. Roxy:

"Do not waste your time ripping in to me as I have you on my ignore list. Sorry but you cannot have a rational conversation without being nasty so you forced my hand. Any PM will not be answered."

This is why I love him.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 8:42am

The GOP is ALWAYS THE VICTIM -- never more so than when they're in the wrong.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 9:21am

Let's take a trip down Democratic Memory Lane Scandals

1. Fast & Furious
2. Benghazi
3. IRS Targeting
4. A/P / Fox News Tracking
5. Obamacare No Bid Website
6. NSA Scandal
7. Weinergate
8. Jon Corzine / MF Global
9. Fannie Mae
10.Spitzer Prostitution Scandal
11.Chris Dodd / Countrywide
12.Tony Rezko & Obama
13.Maxine Waters / Banking
14.Charlie Rangel Ethics & Tax Problems
15.IRS Waste
16.Solyndra/Green Energy
17.Geithner Tax Evasion
18.Tom Donolon / NSA Leaks
19.Jesse Jackson Jr.
20.David Wu

A lot of these you never heard of as they were underreported by the media. Looks like the GOP has a way to go to catch up with you guys.

Updated On: 1/10/14 at 09:21 AM

[romantico]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 9:43am

Scandals JUST UNDER George W.Bush. Let me know if you want a list under Bush sr., Reagan,Nixon,etc.

I think it's safe to say political scandals HAPPEN ON BOTH SIDES. Anyone who thinks their party is less corrupt can not be reasoned with.

Hey Roxy, you seem to think Political scandals ONLY happen to Democrats. How many of these stories did FOX cover I wonder?STOP WATCHING FOX!

2001–2009 George W. Bush Administration
Executive Branch

PRISM (surveillance program) was signed into law on Sept. 11, 2007, by President George W. Bush after he signed the Protect America Act allowing the National Security Agency to start a massive domestic surveillance program known as PRISM on Sept. 11, 2007.

Felipe Sixto, was appointed by President George W. Bush to be his Special Assistant for Intergovernmental Affairs as well as Duty Director at the Office of Public Liaison. He resigned a few weeks later on March 20, 2008 because of his misuse of grant money from the U.S. Agency for International Development when he had worked for the Center for a Free Cuba. He was sentenced to 30 months in prison for stealing almost $600,000 for personal use.

Timothy Goeglein Special Assistant to President Bush resigned when it was discovered that more than 20 of his columns had been plagiarized from an Indiana newspaper. ( 2008 )

Scott Block was appointed by President George W. Bush to head the United States Office of Special Counsel. On April 27, 2010 Bloch pleaded guilty to criminal contempt of Congress for "willfully and unlawfully withholding pertinent information from a House committee investigating his decision to have several government computers wiped ...."On February 2, Magistrate Judge Deborah A. Robinson ruled that Bloch faces a mandatory sentence of at least one month in prison.

Lewis Libby Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney (R). 'Scooter' was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in the Plame Affair on March 6, 2007. He was sentenced to 30 months in prison and fined $250,000. The sentence was commuted by George W. Bush (R) on July 1, 2007. The felony remains on Libby's record though the jail time and fine were commuted.

Alphonso Jackson The Secretary of Housing and Urban Development resigned while under investigation by the Justice Department for alleged cronyism and favoritism

Karl Rove Senior Adviser to President George W. Bush was investigated by the Office of Special Counsel for "improper political influence over government decision-making", as well as for his involvement in several other scandals such as Lawyergate, Bush White House e-mail controversy and Plame affair. He resigned in April 2007.

Richard J. Griffin Assistant Secretary of State for Diplomatic Security appointed by George W. Bush who made key decisions regarding the department's oversight of private security contractor Blackwater USA, resigned in November 2007, after a critical review by the House Oversight Committee found that his office had failed to adequately supervise private contractors during the Blackwater Baghdad shootings protecting U.S. diplomats in Iraq.

Howard Krongard, Republican contributor was appointed Inspector General of the US State Department by President George W. Bush in 2005. After he was accused by the House Oversight Committee of improperly interfering with investigations into private security contractor Blackwater USA, concerning the Blackwater Baghdad shootings. Krongard resigned in December 2007.

"Lawyergate" Or the Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy refers to President Bush firing, without explanation, eleven Republican federal prosecutors whom he himself had appointed. It is alleged they were fired for prosecuting Republicans and not prosecuting Democrats. When Congressional hearings were called, a number of senior Justice Department officials cited executive privilege and refused to testify under oath and instead resigned, including:


Michael A. Battle Director of Executive Office of US Attorneys in the Justice Department.

Bradley Schlozman Director of Executive Office of US Attorneys who replaced Battle

Michael Elston Chief of Staff to Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty

Paul McNulty Deputy Attorney General to William Mercer

William W. Mercer Associate Attorney General to Alberto Gonzales

Kyle Sampson Chief of Staff to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales

Alberto Gonzales Attorney General of the United States

Monica Goodling Liaison between President Bush and the Justice Department

Joshua Bolten Deputy Chief of Staff to President Bush was found in Contempt of Congress

Sara M. Taylor Aide to Presidential Advisor Karl Rove

Karl Rove Advisor to President Bush

Harriet Miers Legal Counsel to President Bush, was found in Contempt of Congress

Bush White House e-mail controversy – During the Lawyergate investigation it was discovered that the Bush administration used Republican National Committee (RNC) web servers for millions of emails which were then destroyed, lost or deleted in possible violation of the Presidential Records Act and the Hatch Act. George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Andrew Card, Sara Taylor and Scott Jennings all used RNC webservers for the majority of their emails. Of 88 officials investigated, 51 showed no emails at all. As many as 5 million e-mails requested by Congressional investigators were therefore unavailable, lost, or deleted.

Lurita Alexis Doan Resigned as head of the General Services Administration. She was under scrutiny for conflict of interest and violations of the Hatch Act. Among other things she asked GSA employees how they could "help Republican candidates".

John Korsmo chairman of the Federal Housing Finance Board pled guilty to lying to congress and sentenced to 18 months of unsupervised probation and fined $5,000. (2005)

Darleen A. Druyun was Principal Deputy Undersecretary of the Air Force nominated by George W. Bush. She pled guilty to inflating the price of contracts to favor her future employer, Boeing. In October 2004, she was sentenced to nine months in jail for corruption, fined $5,000, given three years of supervised release and 150 hours of community service. She began her prison term on January 5, 2005.[73] CBS News called it "the biggest Pentagon scandal in 20 years" and said that she pleaded guilty to a felony.

Philip Cooney Bush appointee to chair the Council on Environmental Quality was accused of editing government climate reports to emphasize doubts about global warming.Two days later, Cooney announced his resignation and later conceded his role in altering reports. Stating "My sole loyalty was to the President and advancing the policies of his administration," .

Jack Abramoff Scandal in which the prominent lobbyist with close ties to Republican administration officials and legislators offered bribes as part of his lobbying efforts. Abramoff was sentenced to 4 years in prison.

David Safavian GSA (General Services Administration) Chief of Staff,found guilty of blocking justice and lying, and sentenced to 18 months


Roger Stillwell Staff in the Department of the Interior under President George W. Bush (R). Pleaded guilty and received two years suspended sentence.

Susan B. Ralston Special Assistant to the President and Senior Advisor to Karl Rove, resigned October 6, 2006, after it became known that she accepted gifts and passed information to her former boss Jack Abramoff.

J. Steven Griles former Deputy to the Secretary of the Interior pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and was sentenced to 10 months.

Italia Federici staff to the Secretary of Interior, and President of the Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy, pled guilty to tax evasion and obstruction of justice. She was sentenced to four years probation.

Jared Carpenter Vice-President of the Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy, was discovered during the Abramoff investigation and pled guilty to income tax evasion. He got 45 days, plus 4 years probation.

Mark Zachares staff in the Department of Labor, bribed by Abramoff, guilty of conspiracy to defraud.

Robert E. Coughlin Deputy Chief of Staff, Criminal Division of the Justice Department pleaded guilty to conflict of interest after accepting bribes from Jack Abramoff. ( 2008 )

Kyle Foggo Executive director of the CIA was convicted of honest services fraud in the awarding of a government contract and sentenced to 37 months in federal prison at Pine Knot, Kentucky. On September 29, 2008, Foggo pleaded guilty to one count of the indictment, admitting that while he was the CIA executive director, he acted to steer a CIA contract to the firm of his lifelong friend, Brent R. Wilkes.

Julie MacDonald Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Department of the Interior, resigned May 1, 2007, after giving government documents to developers (2007)

Claude Allen Appointed as an advisor by President George W. Bush (R) on Domestic Policy, Allen was arrested for a series of felony thefts in retail stores. He was convicted on one count and resigned soon after.

Lester Crawford Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, resigned after 2 months. Pled guilty to conflict of interest and received 3 years suspended sentence and fined $90,000 (2006)

2003 Invasion of Iraq depended on intelligence that Saddam Hussein was developing "weapons of mass destruction" (WMDs) meaning nuclear, chemical and/or biological weapons for offensive use. As revealed by The (British) Downing Street memo "Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and the facts were being fixed around the policy" The press called this the 'smoking gun."(2005)

Yellowcake forgery: Just before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration presented evidence to the UN that Iraq was seeking material (yellowcake uranium) in Africa for making nuclear weapons. Though presented as true, it was later found to be not only dubious, but outright false.

Coalition Provisional Authority Cash Payment Scandal: On June 20, 2005, the staff of the Committee on Government Reform prepared a report for Congressman Henry Waxman.It was revealed that $12 billion in cash had been delivered to Iraq by C-130 planes, on shrinkwrapped pallets of US $100 bills.

The United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, concluded that "Many of the funds appear to have been lost to corruption and waste.... Some of the funds could have enriched both criminals and insurgents...." Henry Waxman, commented, "Who in their right mind would send 363 tons of cash into a war zone?" A single flight to Iraq on December 12, 2003, which contained $1.5 billion in cash is said to be the largest single Federal Reserve payout in US history according to Henry Waxman.

Bush administration payment of columnists with federal funds to say nice things about Republican policies. Illegal payments were made to journalists Armstrong Williams, Maggie Gallagher and Michael McManus (2004–2005)

Bernard Kerik nomination in 2004 as Secretary of Homeland Security was derailed by past employment of an illegal alien as a nanny, and other improprieties. On Nov 4, 2009, he pled guilty to two counts of tax fraud and five counts of lying to the federal government and was sentenced to four years in prison.

Plame affair (2004), in which CIA agent Valerie Plame's name was supposedly leaked by Richard Armitage, Deputy Secretary of State, to the press in retaliation for her husband's criticism of the reports used by George W. Bush to legitimize the Iraq war.Armitage admitted he was the leak but no wrongdoing was found.

Thomas A. Scully, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), withheld information from Congress about the projected cost of the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act, and allegedly threatened to fire Medicare's chief actuary, Richard Foster, if Foster provided the data to Congress. (2003) Scully resigned on December 16, 2003.

NSA warrantless surveillance – Shortly after the September 11 attacks in 2001, President George W. Bush (R) implemented a secret program by the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on domestic telephone calls by American citizens without warrants, thus by-passing the FISA court which must approve all such actions. (2002) In 2010, Federal Judge Vaughn Walker ruled this practice to be illegal.

Janet Rehnquist (daughter of former Chief Justice William Rehnquist) appointed Inspector General of the Department of Health and Human Services by George W. Bush. In 2002, Governor Jeb Bush's (R-FL) Chief of Staff Kathleen Shanahan asked Rehnquist to delay auditing a $571 million federal overpayment to the State of Florida. Rehnquist ordered her staff to delay the investigation for five months until after the Florida elections. When Congress began an investigation into the matter, Rehnquist resigned in March 2003, saying she wanted to spend more time with her family.

John Yoo An attorney in the Office of Legal Counsel inside the Justice Department who, working closely with vice president Dick Cheney and The Bush Six,wrote memos stating the right of the president to –

suspend sections of the ABM Treaty without informing Congress
bypass the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act allowing warrentless wiretapping of US Citizens within the United States by the National Security Agency.

State that the First Amendment and Fourth Amendments and the Takings Clause do not apply to the president in time of war as defined in the USA PATRIOT Act allow Enhanced Interrogation Techniques (torture) because provisions of the War Crimes Act, the Third Geneva Convention, and the Torture convention do not apply.

Many of his memos have since been repudiated and reversed.Later review by the Justice Department reported that Yoo and Jay Bybee used "poor judgement" in the memos, but no charges were filed.

Updated On: 1/10/14 at 09:43 AM

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 10:04am

What do any of those scandals have to do with Chris Christie Roxy?

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 10:05am

I don't quite follow the thinking of someone who wants to have a "rational conversation" and yet keeps announcing that no one should respond to either his thread posts or PMs.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 10:14am

Mr. Roxy is a joke. He constantly PM's and answers board members he claims he has on ignore.

How anyone can take him seriously or even give one ounce of credibility to anything he posts on this board is beyond me.

Everyone knows he isn't remotely interested in carrying on a rational discussion or debate and I seriously think he's incapable of it.

All he wants to do is copy and paste the garbage he finds on the internet and have us accept it, no questions asked.

Then he disappears or if he's challenged he gets his Depends twisted in a knot and plays the victim.

It gets tiresome.

Updated On: 1/10/14 at 10:14 AM

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 10:19am

He's as useless as that 5 pound bag of flour with a hole in it that he calls "The Mrs."

Good thing he has me on ignore so he'll never see that.



Right?

[romantico]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 10:22am

Nobody here takes Roxy seriously. Roxy sent me a nasty hateful PM as well. When I responded to his PM I put him on my ignore list. He started a thread with my name in the title scolding me for putting him on my ignore list. He called me a coward and a typical liberal. You see, Roxy and his kind have to have the final word. It's okay for Roxy to put you on his ignore list but if you do the exact same thing to him, the rules change. Like I said, NO ONE takes Roxy seriously. He responds to lots of my posts and I am also on his ignore list. LOL!

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 10:23am

What’s interesting is that he says that it’s pointless to “rip into” him because he has me on ignore. Roxy, I don’t call out your ridiculousness so that you’ll respond and give me attention. That’s just trolling. I call out your ridiculousness because you’re ridiculous. You have me on ignore; I don’t have you on ignore. So I can still read your posts, and I’m happy to address them.

You seem very confused about how this feature works.

Which is unsurprising.

Also, I think you have me confused with someone else, as I don’t recall us attempting a rational discussion. You blocked me because I called a pointless thread of yours pointless.

Anyway, I’ll happily respond to posts and PMs!

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 10:24am

I've never received a nasty PM from him. He knows better than to do something like that.

[madbrian]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 10:29am

And yet, this thread has devolved into a discussion of him.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 10:31am

Roxy has sent me numerous PM's saying how glad he is that he has me on ignore so that he can't see whatever it is I just wrote about him.

Roxy's special.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 10:41am

Has the press tracked down Bridget Anne Kelly for an interview? Now that, my friends, would be an interesting voice in all this.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 10:44am

I don't know what she would say at this point since she's going to have to testify soon. I'm sure her lawyers don't want her to say anything.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 1/10/14 at 10:50am

I'm sure she's busy practicing pleading the 5th.