Donna DeLory, Niki Harris, and Debi Mazar as the three Norns, running out of string...
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Is Niki gone too? If so, who sings the melodies now?
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Oh my god. On The Tonight Show, she has the grill in (of course) and she looks EXACTLY like Edith Massey.
LOL! OK...that made me laugh!
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i guess if anything we wear/do/create/live with in life makes us happy- why not?
therefore the grill doesn't bother me- if it makes her happy- so be it.
To judge her on grills is kinda- well... hopefully we can move beyond that at some point.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
She told Jimmy the word "fun" doesn't come to mind when she thinks about her life.
So let's ignore the grill. Are we allowed to wonder why she had her mouth hanging open like a cow for the portions of the performance where she wasn't lip synching for her life, or later, singing a bit?
The whole thing was...well...just strange. I don't quite know what to make of it.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Um. Well. SHE thinks she's funny. So, there's that. And maybe there was humor to be mined in her Mae West-like penchant for younger men, but it's not over their knowledge of the expensive artwork she has on her walls.
The clothes. The awful awful clothes. The everything-but-the-pole dancing. She has crossed a point of no return.
Yet that 'point of no return' seems to have many talking....and in a positive way. The clothes are CLEARLY supposed to be tongue and cheek,nobody for a second could possibly think otherwise.
I thought she came across relaxed and funny on the show, yes let's drop the grill thing shall we, you don't like them, I don't like them but she does, it's hardly the end of the world. The performance of B***h I'm Madonna was pretty insane but I kinda loved it....and as mentioned earlier I don't like the song, however with visual to it rather than just listening on the CD it seems to work much better.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/10/08
Are the clothes suppose to be "tongue in cheek"? I think she actually thinks she looks hot and sexy dressed like that. She looked ridiculous.
Sigh. I remember laughing with Madonna.
Sorry, but I'm not able to move past the grill. The grill is my number one problem with her current appearance. SO WRONG!
I didn't see her on the Tonight Show, but I can see where she's an Edith Massey wannabe. Only Edith is hysterical. Love her!
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/10/08
Jane, I didn't watch it last night either. After reading this thread, I did a search and it's on the internet broken down into three clips. My search was Madonna, Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, youtube. If you watch it, you're in for a "treat".
that is my plan, to go to you tube. can't wait-I'm going now!
Some of those videos are blocked. I could only watch the interview part and Holiday. I'm so corny-one of my favorite things Madonna does is the dance to Holiday. Anyway, the interview wasn't bad. But Madonna- the reason you can't remember the lyrics to a song you wrote yesterday is this is what happens when you get old. Lol!
I should know!
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
It's "tongue and cheek" in the UK, I think, where "prat" is a thing.
Two of the things I actually know a thing or two about are public speaking and stand up comedy. So, I won't move past the grill. I will say that for somebody who is nominally a "communicator" in her career (one who conveys some sort of message to others as entertainment), Madonna should know the first rule is: do not voluntarily give yourself a vocal impediment.
You want to goof around and tell jokes into a microphone? Take the roadblock out of your gaping maw. Jokes connect when people can hear you articulate them. It's bizarre that a woman of her years would make herself sound like Cindy Brady while talking about hitting up her son for boyfriends (which, to be honest I thought was a funny premise, maybe she can work with a comic to turn it into material, if she hasn't burned all her bridges to her ex-friend comics).
The big take away message from her appearance: "NOBODY MAKES ANY MONEY" ON HER BIG EXTRAVAGANZA TOURS!!!!
I have completely rethought my critique of her ticket prices now that I realize she is doing these shows out of the goodness of her heart. {hugest gay eyeroll in the history of huge gay eyerolls} Oliver, take a poll!
the whole Tonight Show is here
THANK YOU NAMO. Now I have to admit she plays young very well. I didn't feel she was out of her element at all. Shows you what someone who has drive, commitment, confidence, and ambition can do.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
She's missing one key ingredient: fun.
That's true. She's such a strict professional, it takes over.
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It's reminiscent of all those song and dance intros on SNL that go through the dressing rooms and backstage hallways and the key ingredient is that they are so well-rehearsed and timed yet look effortless and spontaneous.
From the very beginning of the Tonight Show, Fallon kept going on and on and on about how hard Madonna had worked to pull off something she was going to do later on the show and she had been working on it since the day before and it was going to be awesome.
But that's the thing. She works and works and works. And talks about how hard she works and how busy she is. And it shows. She probably really meant it when she said "fun" isn't a word she thinks applies to her life.
Which is kind of a shame when your life is based on POP MUSIC.
there were times I saw her having real fun during the Truth or Dare movie when she's fooling around with her staff. Perhaps only when she's drunk?
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Yeah, I remember that too. But, as Graham Norton so accurately nailed it years ago, "Now it's just all grim determination."
Ok so we can all agree the grills look stupid. Great
namo, so now you are knocking her for working hard? You do know that SNL rehearse the sketches right? I thought she looked like she was having a blast during that performance, and if that's what hard work does then bring it on.
Just because she works hard does not mea. That she ain't having fun, and audiences seemed to click with her last night as the album, single and BIM got a huge boost on ITunes.
HE MENTIONED THE GRILL! HE SAID IT LOOKS STUPID!
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
namo, so now you are knocking her for working hard? You do know that SNL rehearse the sketches right?
No, no, a thousand times no I am not saying that! And this has been a bone of contention in our discussions before. What I am criticizing her for is that you can always see how hard she's working. Plus, she and people like Fallon are always pointing it out, before, during and after her performances. Remember the moment my Madonna button switched to the OFF position was on the Confessions tour (you guys all know she wasn't in the mirror ball that descended from the ceiling, right?) was when she berated the audience to jump in the over heated arena because "I'm working my ass off up here."
As I said in the above post, of course those incredible numbers on SNL are rehearsed to within an inch of their lives. What makes for really great entertainment is the ILLUSION that it is spontaneous and effortless. THAT'S where the joy lies. That's where you feel a sense of fun.
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