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[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:07pm

Namo maybe that's a 'you' thing (lets be honest, its daft enough to be), if you were a fan of her for many years as you keep saying then that is one thing with her that will never change, she is very on top of each detail, that's why she 'works so hard' because she is a perfectionist, and who cares if she says she works hard? Should we hate all broadway actors for saying how difficult the 8 shows a week are? 

Also i dont see her 'working hard' i see her performing and having fun with it, clearly an audience see the same as well as she is still here. So again, maybe its a 'you' thing. 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:12pm

 

No we should only hate  the actor who lets us see how hard it is every step of the performance.

Are you trying to not understand what I am saying?  Also, I don't think it necessarily equates that her shrinking audience is still there because she's fun.  In some cases, I dare suggest it's more a sense of allegiance owing to her once being important to them at a distant time in the past.  

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:41pm

Isn't a "you thing" otherwise known as a "personal opinion"?  One person likes it, another doesn't.  One person sees it one way, another doesn't.  Those are all "you things".  

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:44pm

Isn't it kind of a longstanding showbiz tradition that "making it look easy" is the goal? 

[Jane2]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:48pm

I can see her working, also. 

I have to change what I said about it being as bad as watching an actor act.

I hadn't noticed that I was watching her work until Namo brought it up. I don't think it bothers me much because there are other things about Madonna to watch. She  has something no one else has. She always has had it-love her ot not, from the very beginning, you couldn't take your eyes off her. She has a charisma that can't be bought.

Updated On: 4/10/15 at 03:48 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:55pm

YES.  Thank you.

On the Drowned World Tour, when she sat down on the bale of hay and strummed her accoustic, occasionally putting on a smile that looked a bit like a baby with gas, it wasn't fun.  It was, to paraphrase something else, more like the idea of fun.  

[Jane2]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:58pm

Namo, I changed my last post. 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 4:10pm

I totally get that the ever present determination may not be a distraction for people.  But, I wanna see Fred Astaire dance up a wall and across a ceiling and make it look like the easiest feat in the world.  That's magic and fun.

Madonna has become like an Ayn Rand version of a pop star:  ALL BEHOLD MY HARD WORK, DETERMINATION AND STAMINA AND UNDERSTAND MY SUPERIORITY BECAUSE, BITCH, I'M, well you get the idea.

[Jane2]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 4:43pm

I get what you're saying, Namo. But what if it's true?

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 7:17pm

Updated On: 4/10/15 at 07:17 PM

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 7:19pm

I hope this wasn't already posted.  Not as biting or funny as I had hoped--Sandra largely controls herself, but she gets a few lines in.  And I genuinely felt a bit when she seemed genuinely sad that she hadn't even run into Madonna in over a decade.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 11:57pm

I laughed all the way through that.  "Honey, HONEY…!"  To me it's really funny because when I watched the Ghost Town video the FIRST thing it reminded me of was Sandra's post-nuclear monologue from "Without YOU… I'm nothing!".  I think Madonna has consistently gone into mean girl mode and lifted stuff from Sandra's act, like covering "Fever."  And studying kabballah.

The time before the last time I saw Sandra live she did it bit where she was talking about things we try out and discard and she said, "Like kabballah. What was THAT about?".  If only Madonna had the wherewithal to ask that same question.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 12:10pm

"So the nuclear holocaust isn't all that bad..."  LOL

[javero]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 6:20pm

rotflmao @ "...when you've run out of ideas"

Updated On: 4/11/15 at 06:20 PM

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 7:46pm

I admit, I found it much funnier listening to it while watching the video at the same time.  (Full disclosure--I actually didn't even watch more than the first minute of the video before now...)

[HorseTears]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 11:00pm

Two minor concessions.  I will say that, watching the "Ghosttown" vid again that I think her tango dancing is quite lovely.  Virtually every other element of it, though, remains ridiculous.  Oh, and as excruciating as that Fallon appearance was, I guess it's nice to see her dancing with confidence and not looking... arthritic.  Perhaps those matador'ian costumes were too restrictive.  Ole! 

[ScottyDoesn'tKnow2]

Posted: 4/12/15 at 3:14am

I actually really enjoyed the Fallon performance. But then I like "Bitch, I'm Madonna" and the mess that it is. I thought she looked really fun (or "fun") out there and her dancing was much better here than any of her other promotional performances from Rebel Heart.

I still think that the "Ghosttown" video is such wasted potential. I like that she has her own style and has a "**** it" attitude (yes I know you can psychoanalyze it to say she does give many ****s), but if she wasn't so focused on trying to look cool all the time, she could do something that's emotionally real and raw. The problem with that though is that she might do a video about an issue that resonates with people her age, which of course she's working hard not to do. That video could have been something really good if she dropped that stupid stylized post-apocalypse concept and went for something more grounded and real. Maybe it's saying something that Jonas Akerlund couldn't make Madonna do anything truly interesting in that video. She's too unaware now. Maybe that's why I enjoyed the Fallon performance because it seemed less controlled.

Updated On: 4/12/15 at 03:14 AM

[Luscious]

Posted: 4/13/15 at 7:12am

LOL! Posted to Madonna's Facebook page this morning...

Updated On: 4/13/15 at 07:12 AM

[HorseTears]

Posted: 4/13/15 at 11:33am

This is probably all Diplo and nothing to do with Madge, but I have to say as silly as "Bitch I'm Madonna" is, I kinda love the vocal production of Nicki M's rap - especially this moment from 2:35-2:42 wherein the synth/drum tracks soften and Nicki's voice is brought to the foreground.  That's some damn good production there.  

Oh, and, Madonna was at Coachella this weekend.  

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/13/15 at 11:42am

I love how she's making out but is totally and completely aware, like the long-time professional porn star that she is, that nothing is going to stand between her face and the camera -- swoop -- so down she pushes Drake's arm.  

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 4/13/15 at 11:53am

DON'T TOUCH THE HAIR!

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 4/13/15 at 12:13pm

"like the long-time professional porn star that she is"

I think some of your criticism of modern day Madonna is spot on. But other times you sound like my father ranting about her circa 1989. Maybe he was ahead of his time?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/13/15 at 12:45pm

I think feminist porn stars rule.  I just couldn't decide if I should name her pop's Nina Hartley or Annie Sprinkles.

[tazber]

Posted: 4/13/15 at 12:45pm

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/13/15 at 12:53pm

Did she kiss him with the grill in?