Posted: 5/7/15 at 9:28am
SandD, it seems pretty clear that you care about a lot more than the album. Otherwise you wouldn't go to such efforts to explain/justify every dumb thing she does. On the other hand, if you're pretty sure she wasn't texting during a theater performance for attention than I'll just have to take your word for it.
Posted: 5/7/15 at 9:36am
I really do enjoy the new album.
But I think she finally lost me with the Thatcher post.
Posted: 5/7/15 at 10:28am
Namo how am I justifying everything she does? I said kidding drake was silly and that her Instagram is fun for good and bad reasons, how is that justifying? All I said was she has always done things to get attention, that's is Madonna, it's not like it's a new thing. And if you believe for a second that she was texting during a show attention then your hatred of her knows no limits, rude ( yes) for attention (don't be silly)
The thatcher post caused a it of a stink but to be fair, whilst many of us in the UK hate some of things she did she was a very strong woman who stuck to her guns, many still do admire her here. Me, not so much.
Posted: 5/7/15 at 4:10pm
Well sure...I guess you could describe a lot of reprehensible people as "strong." But Thatcher also goes against everything Madonna has claimed that she stands for.
Posted: 5/7/15 at 4:20pm
Maybe Baddie Winkle could show Madonna how to have fun with aging?
Posted: 5/7/15 at 6:09pm
Erik how does Thatcher go against everything Madonna stands for? And well done Namo for ignoring my question again.
Posted: 5/7/15 at 7:44pm
"What good's first woman if it's her? I suppose you'd have liked Hitler if he was a woman. Ms. Hitler. Got a lot done, Hitlerina. Great adventures."
--Caryl Churchill, Top Girls
Posted: 5/7/15 at 7:50pm
Perhaps Madgo could cover this.
Posted: 5/7/15 at 9:16pm
Sorry Song, I forgot the question was directed at me before I finished your post.
Like, I think you don't have any reason to believe or defend that Madonna was or wasn't texting for attention.
Posted: 5/8/15 at 10:31am
Well logic would dictate that she was texting for the reasons anyone texts Namo.
and yes Thatcher was a vile woman when it came to the gay community ( as most works leaders were) but she has a lot of qualities that many found admirable, especially for a woman in power.
Posted: 5/8/15 at 1:31pm
You know what, I LOVE Kanye West's records and have seen him live and would do so again. But the d-bag things he does are all his. I don't have to make excuses for him The only time I feel a need to stick up for him is when somebody calls him talentless, and basically I will argue against that. It's really nice to be able to argue in favor of artistic output and not a "he's got you talking about him so he wins" kind of a thing.
I feel bad that you need to defend every Madonna misstep. When she said "she's not me," she was talking about you too!
Posted: 5/8/15 at 1:59pm
I feel the same way about Kanye West. And I think it pretty accurately describes how I feel about Madonna.
Posted: 5/8/15 at 3:10pm
Again at what point was I sticking up for her? I said the Drake kiss was silly, her Instagram his hillarious ( good and bad) and she was rude for texting in a show. So I ask again, where am I jumping to her defence? Namo you just talk for the sake of talking. Is it because I said that some people admire Thatcher as a strong woman? Sorry but that's fact, I live in the UK, I lived through her reign, whist not a supporter of hers (her decisions really affected my family), I can't take away the fact that in a mans game she played it with strength and stuck to what she believed right or wrong.
Posted: 5/8/15 at 7:27pm
I hadn't given the Thatcher thing a second thought. Madonna is vapid when it comes to politics that just goes without saying.
I was referring specifically to your need to weigh in on the texting.
Posted: 5/9/15 at 8:48am
And I said it was rude her texting during the show. AGAIN how was I sticking up for her?
Is it because I said I don't think she was texting for attention? Come on you honestly really believe that she sat there and thought 'I know what will get people talking and hating on me....I will text during an Off Broadway show'? Give me a friggin break.
Posted: 5/9/15 at 9:01am
"Come on you honestly really believe that she sat there and thought 'I know what will get people talking and hating on me....I will text during an Off Broadway show'? Give me a friggin break."
I could believe that, although what I think is that first of all, she wanted to send someone a message, and second of all, she figured it was rude, and people will talk, but who cares?
Posted: 5/9/15 at 11:45am
A formerly significant artist aging gracefully. Now THIS is a rebel heart!
Posted: 5/9/15 at 12:15pm
Oh come off it, she text during the show to send a message, it was rude yes, on no planet does a sane person think she thought 'oh this will get me attention, negative attention' good god, it's like the Twilight Zone in here.
Posted: 5/9/15 at 1:23pm
This is why I feel bad. You personally feel you have to stand up for her for even the most trivial things. Even things she won't defend for herself when Liz Rosenberg flat out denies what happened happened.
Posted: 5/10/15 at 7:02pm
Are you dense or just playing stupid? It has nothing to do with sticking up for her, it's to do with calling you out on the idiotic stuff you come out with.
Posted: 5/11/15 at 9:01am
Songanddanceman2, I enjoy reading your posts (even the Madonna thread). The majority of the time you contribute insightful and intelligent thoughts. However, you do seem to come across quite defensive of Madonna in this thread and other Madonna threads. I, too, am a fan. I have purchased every cd. Even OVERPAID for the upcoming tour. But as a fan I can recognize that a lot of stuff she does, especially now, are either acts for attention or she really is a self indulgent bitch. It makes me wonder if she was caught farting in public, would you blame it on the waitress for the food they served? (Just Kidding)
Posted: 5/11/15 at 9:19am
I agree with Artman. I think you, Song and Dance, are in a state of denial on this issue.
Posted: 5/11/15 at 7:30pm
A formerly significant artist aging gracefully. Now THIS is a rebel heart!
^ Glenda Jackson
It could be argued that she was more significant as a Member of Parliament in the UK the past 23 years, but I agree! She just stepped down at last week's election, so who knows...she may become a significant artist again...here's hoping!
I wonder what she thinks of Madonna.
Posted: 5/11/15 at 8:16pm
MADONNA breaks a record with Ghosttown.
it becomes the 45th single to top the Dance chart at #1 next week.
Beating out any other artist with the most number ones on any of the Billboard charts.
She was tied with George Strait at 44 hits. But ghosttown puts her at 45 and well, Rebel Heart is to have a few more releases so she may beat her own record as the summer/fall of 2015 evolves.
Rebel Heart tour is casting this week for dancers in NYC
BITCH IM MADONNA is the next single- and the video will be shot next week.
Jonas Akerlund (Ghosttown, Music, Ray of Light) is the director.
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