Morrissey: "I See No Difference Between Eating Meat and Pedophilia"- Page 3

[bethnor]

Posted: 1/4/14 at 10:05pm

If cats and dogs are so "delicious", why haven't we been eating them in the West for the past couple of millennia?

accidents of history. for instance, in the great infancy of the human species, when we did not know that we are all mammals and share a genetic kinship, priests in india realized that if the poor killed and ate their cows, they would be eating their only source of income. so they said the cows are sacred, don't eat them, hence the hindu prohibition against beef, while westerners have no such inhibitions. many of you have watched top chef, i'm sure. any protein, properly prepared, will taste delicious.

and if you don't believe that we are genetic kin, then my next question for you is, why do you take modern medicine. all medicines you pop had to be tested in animal models first (mice, usually). the only reason it begins to translate is because, despite how different they look from us, and how tasty their meat may be (and remember, in certain parts of the world, rodents are also enjoyed as food), they are related to us genetically. Updated On: 1/4/14 at 10:05 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/4/14 at 10:22pm

I'm not thrilled about animal testing. And I know my sick headache powder is encapsulated in gelatin.

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/4/14 at 10:30pm

So my friend has an uncle who is a food inspector. While in a Chinese restaurant, he came upon a room quite by accident where he saw the carcasses of cats hanging. I'm not surprised. I never thought that when you ordered a chicken dish, that it was really chicken. What kind of chicken comes in thin, wavy slices (not unlike if you pulled out the leathery sole of a shoe that's glued in). none.

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/4/14 at 10:43pm

geoduck clams. AAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHH HELP!

[bethnor]

Posted: 1/4/14 at 11:05pm

winner of top chef, season 3, showing you how to enjoy geoduck raw and fried.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgNR-nAlWaw

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/4/14 at 11:17pm

I couldn't watch past the point when he said how long they get when they're relaxed.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 1/4/14 at 11:56pm

"I'm not thrilled about animal testing. And I know my sick headache powder is encapsulated in gelatin."

I never even thought about pill containers. (A good reason to snort your e, I suppose.)

I do think animal testing is done too much, and I see no reason why it should be done at all on obvious culprits like makeup. But, for example, I know a drug my mom takes was tested on animals and it has saved her life (and many others.) And I personally can, reluctantly accept that.

So I think it really is something that is personal, and for me, goes in degrees. When I have people at random picnics who complain when they see I am eating a veggie burger that I am hypocritical if I also think that some lab research on animals is perhaps justified (and there is also a question as to the treatment of those animals) and that makes me a hypocrite--I can live with that. Then again, whatever drugs they were testing on the poor animated mice, dogs and rabbits in Secret of NIMH and especially Plague Dogs, films that so traumatized me as a kid, I think I'd have to just say no.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 12:37am

Speaking of Animal Testing.... (from 2012)

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 1:38am

In my day that's what leather bars were for.

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 2:42am

I'm drawn on animal testing. I'll admit I see no reason to be testing cosmetics and crap like that on animals, but I'm hard pressed to imagine where medical science would be without starting with animals before moving on to human trials.

Posted: 1/5/14 at 3:58am

I think most pill capsules now are made of vegetable cellulose, at least my vitamin pills are.

I think animal testing for cosmetics is barbaric, especially for products like shampoo, because there is no reason to reinvent these products, that have been working fine for at least a few decades. I'm glad that where I live there's a discounter with its own brand that doesn't do animal testing.

I agree with AEA on the testing for medicine, but it's about time pharmaceutical companies share their failures, so the same cruel tests don't have to be done over and over again.

I have been a vegetarian for about 16yrs now and for the first 2 yrs I made sure I didn't eat anything with gelatin, but I have to admit I'm too lazy now to check everything...I even enjoy the occasional gummy bear.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 10:11am

I just had a really weird dream (for realz guys!) that I was teaching people Cats--the musical. And comforting a friend who was in it with a song about how we were the cats "they would never know, impossible people and tabby cats."

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 10:18am

Wait--what? Vegetarians can't even eat gummy bears?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 12:48pm

Back in the mid-'80s I was working with a Classic Hippy on a collective and when I told him my then-partner didn't even eat things with gelatin, he replied, "Oooooooh! He's hardcore!"

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 1:43pm

"Wait--what? Vegetarians can't even eat gummy bears?"

Yes, PJ. Many choose not to as it uses animal byproduct. Here is its composition:

Gelatin is a mixture of peptides and proteins produced by partial hydrolysis of collagen extracted from the skin, bones, and connective tissues of animals such as domesticated cattle, chicken, pigs, and fish. Photographic and pharma grades of gelatin are generally made from beef bones, although some beef bone gelatin is used by the food industry. Gelatin is an animal protein unlike many other gelling agents used by the food industry.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 2:32pm

How about hamburgers? Surely they're allowed to eat HAMBURGERS!

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 2:40pm

No you sound like my brother's in-laws during the holiday meals I've shared with them.

"What about fish? You eat FISH don't you? A lot of vegetarians eat fish."

I used to patiently explain things but it comes up every time, so I just say:

No, I'm a vegetarian.

"What about chicken? A lot of vegetarians eat CHICKEN."

No, I'm vegetarian.

"Pork isn't red meat. Do you at least eat PORK?"

No, I'm vegetarian.

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 3:22pm

I had a friend who had to keep on repeating what you did, Namo, except for this - she said she eats fish, because they don't feel pain when they're killed.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 4:17pm

I dunno, there was something pretty painful going on as I watched the skates get their wings sliced off while they were still alive in the "Leviathan" documentary.

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 4:39pm

Oh, I'm sure they feel pain. I think my friend made that up so she could still eat fish.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 4:41pm

One of the funniest factoids I ever heard about vegetarians was on a random sample phone survey. A large number of people identified themselves as vegetarians and then in later questions many of them responded that their most recent meal had meat. And even more had eaten meat within the last week.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 5:38pm

Then I guess I'm a vegetabletarian.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/5/14 at 6:05pm

You should search put the song " Vegetables" on Brian Wilson's "Smile" album.

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 1/6/14 at 7:31am

My father used to say to my sister, who became vegetarian at about 13 or 14, "I just hope I live long enough to see you eat a big, juicy steak."

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 1/6/14 at 10:01am

i can't hear anything in this thread over the crunchy crunch crunch of the bacon i am devouring.