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Fantod
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/3/14
#25Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 11:10amI don't like it. You do. You can like the movie, but I still don't. I thought that the movie should have either picked Nazism or a happy ending, but not both, and it bothers me that a huge political issue could be solved so quickly, even if it is supposed to be a comment of television as a whole.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#27Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 11:49am
It's truly a wonderful film, with absolutely perfect performances from top to bottom. I remember seeing it in a packed theater and the ripple of unease that went through the crowd when the epithet "colored people" got tossed out, almost as if you could hear people realize maybe the movie wasn't really about what they thought it had been about.
It's also a movie that uses music extraordinarily well, which is perhaps why folks think it would make a great musical. The problem comes when you try to find a new song that expresses the mood as well as "At Last" or "Take Five" do in the film.
Wynbish
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
sabrelady
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/03
#29Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 12:43pm
" I thought that the movie should have either picked Nazism "
it ain't NECEssarily about the Nazi's/fascism. There are multiple metaphors that work. I have always thought it was about the authentic vs the inauthentic life and the fear that is engendered when an unsought change has evolved naturally or otherwise.
"Nazi's" is just too limited a view for me.
Updated On: 10/22/14 at 12:43 PM
#30Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 12:48pmIt's a pretty sharp takedown of that certain mindset that has nostalgia for an America that never existed. But a commentary on Nazism? Nah.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
sabrelady
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/03
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#33Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 1:06pmBack in 2008 there was a song presented at the BMI Showcase from a musical version that somebody was working on (I can't remember who the writers were, though I do remember that Aaron Galligan-Steirle played the Toby Maguire part). The song was catchy and I remember it was pretty well received by the audience at the show case. I'm curious what happened with it.
Fantod
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/3/14
#34Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 1:17pmI think that It IS about Nazism. How do you think things went down in the '30's around that time? There was a problem and there was change and the people blamed the problem on the change. The unfair trials and the new laws without the say of those excluded are very much like what the Nazis did. Tell me that those joined hands didn't even slightly remind you of the Swastika. Obviously, it's a movie so nobody can be right unless you want to talk to Gary Ross.
Wynbish
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
sabrelady
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/03
#36Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 1:29pm
TO morrow Belongs
To morrow Belongs
Tomorrow Belongs To Me.
#37Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 1:33pm
"Obviously, it's a movie so nobody can be right unless you want to talk to Gary Ross."
Well, based on your post, you can certainly be wrong.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Wildcard
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/21/06
#38Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 1:43pmNow I understand why there was that little girl in the red coat in Schindler's List. She was from Pleasantville.
sabrelady
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/03
#41Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 1:46pmBut actually, when Joan Allen is leaving and telling William H. Macy how to use the oven, I see now it was really about how to kill Jews.
#42Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 2:12pm
Isn't that the title of the new Shonda Rhimestein series?
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#43Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 2:27pm
LOL at Wildcard.
Wynbish-That picture you posted is the scene I remember most from this movie.
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"You can't pray away the gay."-Callie Torres on Grey's Anatomy.
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Fantod
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/3/14
#44Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 2:51pmWynbish, fine 1925-1933 if you want. Why are people not capable of having a different opinion than somebody else on this Board? I might be wrong, in fact I'm probably not right on target, but come on you could at least kind of validate my opinion because I am also a human being, and shame on you for treating another human being with such little respect, even if it is an online forum. I might be wrong, or I might be crazy. So what?
sabrelady
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/03
#46Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 2:55pm
I haven't seen this movie in years, but I don't remember anything about Nazis.
I would love a musical version, but who is Barney Fife enough now to play the Don Knotts character?
#47Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 2:56pm
Joel Grey!
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#49Pleasantville
Posted: 10/22/14 at 2:59pm
That was a whole lot of nonsense about nothing. You're saying that your opinions need to be validated simply because you're a human being?
And I'm glad you got that this film that takes place in an all white 1950's All-American, pre civil rights town was a narrative about Nazi Germany. You paid attention, obviously. GOOD FOR YOU!
(Is that enough validation for you?)
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