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#151

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

That could be true for a select few states, but many states are quite the opposite, as stated with citations in the article I posted. It's not just in Florida either, in texas too. And they went up when they put a ban on handguns in chicago.
You're never going to stop psychotic people from killing. The guy who committed this gruesome act today must have had other issues, he didn't just wake up one day and say "I'm gonna kill people today."
Unless you lock up every mentally ill person who shows sign of strange behavior like it sounds like he did, you're not going to stop crimes like this from happening. It's not possible.
#153

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

I invite anyone on this board to fact check my assertions. I triple checked before posting. You did however finally mention it in the post after that. It still bothers me that it took you so long to acknowledge the tragedy itself.
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#154

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

She brushed it over, just saying it was tragic in with her defense on guns. Interesting how other people are devastated, even though we might not be connected directly to what happened.
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#155

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Name one massacre done by one man and a knife.
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#156

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

I said it in my first post you moron, maybe your triple checking skills needs some tuning up. Saying how sorry I am about it isn't going to bring them back, I realize it's a tragedy, and I don't know how anyone could bring themselves to kill innocent children and I feel terrible for the families, but nothing is going to bring the victims back. I'm just giving my views on gun control and how if someone in the school had been armed maybe it wouldn't have happened, or wouldn't have been as bad as it was.
#157

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Kad please tell me how the government is going to keep a mentally ill person who wants to kill multiple people from buying a gun illegally or smuggling it from mexico. Because I would love to know how they're going to keep guns away from every bad person who wants to go on a shooting spree.
#159

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

I was actually calling son_of_a_gun a moron because he maintained that I didn't mention the shooting until recently, which was completely false. But kad isn't far behind him.
#161

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Yes, I am sure civilians opening fire in an elementary school to try a bring down a man wearing kevlar and apparently having 100 round magazines would result in less death.

SMH.





#162

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Thanks Marianne. I am willing to admit when I am wrong. It was tucked in there briefly.
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#163

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Yes, because we really want guns in schools with children. What if one of them went through their teacher's stuff and found it and accidentally shot themselves or another student? Or is that okay because it was an accident?
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#164

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

"Kad please tell me how the government is going to keep a mentally ill person who wants to kill multiple people from buying a gun illegally or smuggling it from mexico. Because I would love to know how they're going to keep guns away from every bad person who wants to go on a shooting spree."

The way you think is so skewed. Obviously anyone who wants to do anything illegal will find a way to do it, whether it's getting a gun or scoring drugs. We're talking here about the big picture - GENERALITY. If guns in general are hard/impossible to get, CLEARLY it will make a difference. A difference for the better. In your "mind" guns should continue to be as easy to get as they are, because even if they aren't, a few maniacs can still get them.

You've already called us idiot and moron, abnormal. let's see what you come up with next.



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Updated On: 12/14/12 at 06:52 PM

#165

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

I am not reading that the guns were legally acquired by the mom, who apparently had them in the house.

In California, you are required to use a gun lock for guns.

Why on earth would she have these guns in the house? And, I wonder if they were locked or otherwise secured? Where did he get the ammo? I believe the rounds he used could be bought online, but were not "legal" (too large a clip).
#166

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Ummm, you don't think if someone took down the gunman before he shot all those kids would result in less death? I think if more sane people had guns they would be able stop people like this instead of waiting until it's too late. Do you think if another person at the school had a gun would also be shooting the kids? Any responsible gun owner knows how to handle a weapon and wouldn't put the kids in more danger.

And of course I don't think it should be easy to get a gun, no one with a history of a mental illness or a criminal record should be able to buy one, but people who want to be able to protect themselves and their families should be able to buy them and shouldn't be punished because of people like this.
#167

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

The only people who should be allowed to have guns are the police and the military. Today's tragedy absolutely could have been avoided. I have been glued to the news and am still in shock.
#168

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Do you realize the murder rate in the US would be significantly higher if no one had guns to protect themselves from criminals? If you take away the guns from the people who bought them legally, and have never committed a crime, you're leaving people with nothing to protect themselves and just pray the police can get there in time if someone is attacking you. If that was the case, the only people who would have guns would be the criminals whose guns aren't registered and they probably aren't even allowed to own a gun. How exactly would that make crime go down? Especially in border states where so many guns are smuggled in.
#169

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

If the shooter is wearing a vest, no, it is not easy. Shooting a living person in the middle of carnage and chaos is no easy thing. Trained police officers hit civilians. What happens if two people have guns trying to come to the "rescue".

And, I have seen many "responsible gun owners" shoot themselves, their friends or others by mistake. This is not a video game, it is real life, full of mistakes, adrenaline and probably a decent amount of fear.

Clearly, they had no idea he had the guns on him when they let him into the school. When do you start shooting?

There was no need for this particular type of gun to be legal for civilian ownership. It serves one purpose - to kill as an offensive weapon. It can apparently shoot up to 700 rounds a minute.

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#170

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Please show us figures showing how guns are preventing crime.
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#171

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

You are in a delusional, outdated nightmare land. Stop inflicting it on us.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#172

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

And I agree weapons like that shouldn't be legal to civilians, but regular hand guns and rifles shouldn't be banned completely for citizens who aren't criminals. The percentage of gun owners who actually commit crimes is incredibly small. There are statistics, according to this article, from Clinton researchers, that guns used for self defense happens at least 1.5 million times per year, others say 2.5 million times per year. Compared to around 10,000 murders by guns. These all have citations to prove it.
#173

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

For the record Abby, my father was a licensed firearms dealer, and I have been around guns my whole life.

As a child, I would go shooting at the police range, since my dad was good friends with the chief of police, and me and my sisters have all legally owned guns during our lifetimes.

I am not for taking guns away from everyone, because that is not feasible, but instead, having reasonable controls on the types of guns that can be owned, and the ammo that can be sold.

I think this is true for many posting on this thread.

Updated On: 12/14/12 at 07:26 PM

#175

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Who of us was saying "take all the guns away!"

I know I certainly don't think that.


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