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#801

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 9:28am

"That's why Joan stopped with the Whitney Houston jokes after she died, I guess."
Unlikely- she just din't have a high enuff profile (being 6 feet under) to warrant further exploitation as comedy.

#802

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 9:36am

This thread is EPIC!

#803

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 9:45am

Here's the original footage from Man of La Mancha!

Richard Kiley, Irving Jacobson. Robert Rounseville. Ray Middleton...and JOAN DIENER!

She enters, spectacularly, at 3:36.

#804

"That's why Joan stopped with the Whitney Houston jokes after she died, I guess."
Unlikely- she just din't have a high enuff profile (being 6 feet under) to warrant further exploitation as comedy.

I was being ironic. Joan Rivers continued to make jokes about Houston after her death. But Joan's death is sacrosanct!

Updated On: 9/17/14 at 10:52 AM

#805

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 10:55am

I think even Joan would have puked rainbows at that Chenowith tribute. She was more hellion than angel.

"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

#806

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 11:08am

The Chenoweth tribute, which seemed a rather Christian song to be singing for the death of a secular Jewish person, reminded me of people who post things like "Hi! I want to sing song from a musical at my friend's birthday even though he hates musicals!" That said, I only watched it once, PJ! Just once!

#807

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 11:21am

Kristin "I didn't know Pat Robertson was homophobic until after I appeared on 700 Club" Chenoweth was just trying to save Joan's condemned Jewish soul. I will always remember the image of Whoopi, Rosie O and Kristin having their clutchy Cher-at-Sonny's-Funeral Moment on the season premiere of The View.

"It's never time…"

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#808

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 11:32am

GreatMan ofLa Mancha footage! Thank God we have Ed Sullivan's show that archived some of Broadway's finast.

Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!

#809

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 11:42am

Well, we don't really.

The Sullivan estate has over 17 hours of clips like that one of Broadway performers that have never been released. They pulled them all down from bluegobo.com and they shut down YouTube accounts that post them. (This one seems to have escape the detection of the Sullivan Police. At least for now.)

Updated On: 9/17/14 at 11:42 AM

#810

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 11:47am

Well, we know they exist and someday the Estate will hopefully release them.

Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!

#811

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 11:59am

Yes! We even "know" people in possession of them!

The one I most want is the Gertrude Lawrence appearance from Sullivan's Talk of the Town show in 1951. She sings a song from the King and I--but the video is gone from all the existing copies of the tapes I've seen. Only the audio remains. If they have the video. I want it!

The video of Yul Brynner doing "It's a Puzzlement" from the 1951 broadcast exists. They wouldn't allow Brynner to do the song barechested, so he does it in a business suit!

#812

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 1:27pm

I saw this touching tribute to Joan in EW the other day, but I was kind of vexed by this part at the end.

She smiled. We laughed. Then she whispered to me some fat jokes about a person at the wedding, we had coffee, and we shared a limo home

She had a real thing about fat people, huh? Or was she using her comedy to point out the world's foibles here as well, even when it's whispering into someone's ear?

Start spinning!
Billy Eichner remembers Joan Rivers

#813

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 1:58pm

No spin necessary! It's self-evident, as the Bible never says, to all but those who will not see.

Thank you for posting that! I hadn't seen it yet and I think it's my favorite Joan tribute today!

Especially this part, which is like poertry:

I’ll remember that after our Bravo pilot shoot we had a party at Sardi’s, where Joan—the quintessence of hard-won New York fabulousness—looked out the windows at all the Broadway-goers flooding Shubert Alley and said with such joy, “Look at all the people! Theater people!” Yes, she was an international star, but she was, first and foremost, a New Yorker. I’m not sure anyone embodied New York City more than Joan. The glamour, the ruthlessness, the persistence, the resilience, the lust for life, the tireless energy, the confidence, the loneliness, the hustle, the love of fashion, of money, of theater, of gay culture, the love of the game. Joan loved New York. Joan was New York.

#814

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 2:54pm

Will not see what, though?

#815

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 2:55pm

That's a pretty damn great tribute.

#816

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 4:36pm

It really is a great tribute, isn't it?

I didn't like Billy Eichner at first. I thought he was annoying. BUt he's grown on me.

Joan got him from the first. She was always one to embrace the edgy, annoying, unusual comic voices from the very beginning. Then she would encourage them. She was quick to recognize talent and generous with her support of it.

That's why all comics loved her--male, female, gay, straight, bi, black, white, Asian, Latino. ALL of them.

#817

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 5:07pm

My goodness, just when I can't imagine you could lay it on any thicker, out comes the trowel.

You're a Joan Rivers Truther and you're trading in hyperbole. It's not like I've read every apologia you have linked to, but it does seem that most of the people who loved how "unapologetic" Rivers was sure seem to spend an awful lot of time defending her. Against what, exactly? There's a certain air of the writers trying to convince themselves that her material wasn't cruel, and they're doing it by telling readers it was not. As you have been doing over the course of this thread. "That's not cruel because I said it wasn't cruel" in no way makes something not cruel.

Truthers see things that aren't there, ignore things that are, and arrive at a conclusion that they label, well, you know.

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Updated On: 9/17/14 at 05:07 PM

#818

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 5:14pm

TMZ is reporting that Dr. Gwen Korovin is the ENT who performed the unauthorized biopsy.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/17/joan-rivers-doctor-death-throat-surgery-gwen-korovin/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2756555/EXCLUSIVE-Revealed-Joan-Rivers-doctor-dubbed-throat-specialist-stars-attendance-comic-endoscopy-led-cardiac-arrest.html

Updated On: 9/17/14 at 05:14 PM

#819

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 5:21pm

#820

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 5:30pm

Oh SH*T...not Dr. Korovin!

#821

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 5:35pm

We know this woman?

#822

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 5:37pm

She's one of the world's leading ENTs specializing in performers. She saved my voice and sanity early in my career. This...is dreadful.

#823

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 5:41pm

Apparently a lot of performers feel that way about her. (Apparently Joan did too.)

I'm not sure if any of them will still feel that loyalty going forward, even if the investigation exonerates her.

#824

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 5:51pm

This is the woman who was part of Joan's entourage, right? Then I am counting on the Joan Rivers Truthers to make stickers informing the world: JOAN'S DEATH WAS AN INSIDE JOB. #JoanRiversTRUTH

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#825

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Posted: 9/17/14 at 5:53pm

I'm waiting for someone to blame it on the Palestinians.

Or Adele.

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