The hate Newyorkuniq thread- Page 3

[~FloweryFriend~]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 1:20am

1. Margo, love the new icon.


2. Honest question: is there a difference between "transsexual" and "transgendered"?

If so, what is it?

Updated On: 7/12/04 at 01:20 AM

[BwayTheatre11]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 1:21am

When I encounter a transexual, I might be able to understand the compassion for them. I know it must me tough. I was not aware of any of this (as you can see in my first post) and I appreciate you guys explaining the issue to me.

Posted: 7/12/04 at 1:21am

Yuk it up, NewYorkUniq - This seems to be a trend with you. Something comes to mind about a thread you started around the time of a certain New York parade. I'm sorry if you don't understand why people find bigotry and blind-judgement to be important issues to tackle.

[newyorkuniq]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 1:24am

I am just posting observations of what happened during a day. Sometimes it involves touchy issues. So be it.

[~FloweryFriend~]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 1:27am

Thanks jrb!

Posted: 7/12/04 at 1:28am

The thing is, your 'observations' seem to be filtered through a bit of a judgemental filter - and that rubs the wrong way.

[DAME]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 1:33am

You guys; I can't be having another Mojito till next Friday. So everyone... just relax and chill.

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 1:35am

"Transgendered" is a bit more of an umbrella term, that includes not only transsexuals (who want to actually change their sex through surgery and hormone therapy), but also transvestites (usually straight men who like to wear women's clothes for sexual/emotional reasons), hermaphrodites and those individuals who simply feel more comfortable living their lives as the other gender (Charlotte von Mahlsdorff of "I Am My Own Wife" fame falls more or less into this category).

[~FloweryFriend~]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 1:36am

Thank you, Margo, for your consistently enlightening posts.

Posted: 7/12/04 at 1:38am

Dame Edna has simply formed his own classification Actually, he follows a grand tradition of drag performing - Yea, Geraldine! - with Eddie Izard being the latest, greatest example.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 1:39am

Ah--thank you, Margo! :)

[etoile]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 2:03am

Why the hell should anyone chill? And, NO, alcohol is not an answer. In fact, when one's life revolves around a set routine involving alcohol, then that should be a flag as one of those "warning signs" of a deeper problem.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 2:59am

<----------Drag Queen

RuPaul has a new album coming out in September!!!!

and on that note, I give you the lyrics to one of RuPaul's songs that talks about something we need here. I apologize that this thread got so heavy. We all learn something new everyday.

A Little Bit of Love
by rupaul charles & joe carrano

times getting tough
bringin’ you down, down to the ground
tears in your eyes
pain is so bad that you wanna die

well, look here
you’ve got a friend to shelter you
when the storm clouds come in
you’ll always have me
just wait and see
our love’s gonna be

a little bit of love
goes a long, long way
lifting you up to a brighter day
a little bit of love
goes a long, long way
turn it around when you up and say

everybody say love (love!)
can you feel the love? (love!)

you’re down and you’re out
ain’t even got a damn dime to you’re name
and the world is so cold
no one to hold and you wonder why

well, look here
pick yourself up and dust yourself off
you’re gonna shine, you’re gonna shine
cause I’ll be around
bringing you up when your heart needs…

Peace? :)

[orion59]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 6:23am

NYU, I imagine the only thing that would have been more disturbing to you would have been if the transexual or tranvestite were Puerto Rican.

I want to share the worst thing I ever saw on the train. First, let me give you a bit of background. There is a transvestite/transgendered WOMAN (if she identifies herself as a woman then that is what she should be referred to as) who rides the train frequently when I am coming home from work. I don't know is she has biological become a woman or is living as one in preparation for her gender reaclassifiaction surgery. Either way, it doesmn't matter, she obviously wants to be identified as a woman.

This is a train line that is full of the rudest people I have ever met. It's full of college students who think nothing of letting an elderly person stand while theyt sit comfortably, nearly knock over the blind woman who takes the train frequently because she moves too slow, etc.

The transgendered woman sits quietly reading and minding her own business, never does anything that could cause someone else to be bothered. One evening she jumped up out of her seat to offer it to an elderly woman, as she typically seems to do. Some stupid little college girls noticed her height when she stood, noticed her large hands and her voice when she started talking to the elderly woman. These little twits started laughing, makingb rude comments and taunting her. I would have to say that their behavior was the worst thing I have ever seen on a train.

[Jack42]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 8:43am

Um like, the worst thing I ever saw, ok you won't believe this are these posts on a message board? Yeah, ok because they were written by someone who thinks she was making an intellectual observation and wanted to have a discussion and it backfired. Yeah, um cuz ya see, the person posting was of little mind, compassion, understanding and like a racist, bigoted, immature girl?

Crazy and bad huh? Consistantly adding to "regular" threads with meaningless and insipid comments. Then, every once in awhile, um she'd post a new thread about something serious which after someone pointed out would be considered offensive, would like, um try and take it all back and make it seem like a joke, which is even MORE offensive.

Hon? Stick to things you know about - even if that's limited. Your worldview is the very thing that scares the crap out of the generation in front and behind you. Funny how it's ok for you to comment on these people or those people, but when someone criticizes YOU or YOUR physical appearance (I remember a certain thread where people commented on your lack of Marilyn assets) you think they are out of line.

Sometimes what one doesn't like in others is what one doesn't like about themselves - other times they are just a very depressed, ignorant, hateful and angry person.

[Jon]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 8:45am

Many years ago I was at a performance of the musical RUTHLESS at a theatre in Chicago. In the show, one of the lead female roles is traditionally played by a man, like Edna in HAIRSPRAY.

Well, this must have cought the interest of a certain group of men. In the audience that night were approximately 25 members of a crossdresser's club. These men were not "drag queens", they were mostly middle-aged men who enjoyed dressing in women's clothing. Probably straight, married men who would look like Archie Bunker if they wore men's clothes, but dressed up, they looked like Edith!

These guys had a great time at the show, and didn't care at all if others gave them strange looks. They fit right in with the spirit of the show they were attending.

[orion59]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 9:09am

There is a great movie entitled Normal which is available at most video stores. I would suggest anyone who is interetsed in learning more about the issue of gender reclassificationsee it. It's based on a true story of a mna who, after 20-25 years of marriage and raising a family, makes the decision to become what he always felt he was menat to be, a woman. It's a well written, well acted movie that shows a first hand account of the way this effects the lives of not only the person making the transition but, also their freinds and family. It also says a lot about the capacity to love someone for who they are inside as opposed to the body they inhabit. I saw this movie about a year ago and was very touched by the story. It will, hopefully, give you a whole new perspective on the issue that opposes the idea of freaks, mental illness or confused sexual orientation.

[Jack42]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 9:24am

Aw. NewYork changed her thread all around. And here I was hoping she would review "Boys Don't Cry" for us!

[newyorkuniq]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 9:28am

I changed the title that was all. For you people who preach about not judging or insulting other people, you sure are having fun judging and insulting me. If attacking someone so harshly on a message board makes you feel good about yourself than maybe you should take a good look in the mirror to see who the hatefull and angry people are.

[SonofMammaMiaSam]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 9:34am

Honey, I don't hate you. You are just stupid.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 9:58am

now there's the jack i remember.

Posted: 7/12/04 at 10:12am

For myself, I began by suggesting that I perceived a bias in your post, but fully giving the leeway of communication with you about it. Instead of really addressing that possibility - with myself or anyone, you chose to ridicule those of us who were reacting negatively to your thoughts. And on it has gone from there. Personally, I think the concept of 'hate' seems to come a little easily to you - in a great many ways apparently.

[newyorkuniq]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 10:15am

I do not hate, nor dislike anyone just because they are another race, gender,religion or anything of the sort. You need to take that into consideration.

[SonofMammaMiaSam]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 10:17am

I have. You are still stupid.

[newyorkuniq]

Posted: 7/12/04 at 10:26am

Did you take the time out of your study hall to write that?