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WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!

WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!

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Michael Bennett
#1WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 8:44am

Amazing!

But possible when you consider the way votes are tallied: AMPAS voters are asked to rank their favorites: all it takes is a 1/6 of the voters to vote a film "no.1" for it to score a BP nod. Films that are well liked but rank blanket 3s and 4s lose out. That's showbiz kid!

How long will it take for people to cry "racism?" Updated On: 1/23/07 at 08:44 AM

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madbrian
#2re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 8:48am

While I haven't seen all the Best Picture nominees, I have seen The Queen. While Helen Mirren is worthy of all the accolades she is receiving, the movie itself does not rate a Best Picture nom. I've heard that Dreamgirls received the most total noms with 8, but that doesn't make up for this snub.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

Yankeefan007
#2re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 8:48am

Iwo Jima was in a class all it's own. That stole the spot from Dreamgirls and you know what? It deserved to.

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Michael Bennett
#3re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 8:50am

Well clearly JIMA had a group of very strong supporters - see my post about how films are "ranked" by members. And never underestimate the love in Hollywood for Clint Eastwood!

Yankeefan007
#4re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 8:51am

Post a link, MB.

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James2
#5re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 8:51am

Wow. Now I need to see more movies. I thought I had seen four of the Best Picture nominees (The Departed, Dreamgirls, Little Miss Sunshine, The Queen), but now I have to see Letters from Iwo Jima. Good thing I had interest in it to begin with.


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AC126748
#6re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 8:53am

Let them cry racism. To that, I'd say this: Will Smith, Forest Whitaker, Jennifer Hudson, Eddie Murphy and Djimon Honsou all nominated, not to mention the numerous Latinos and Latinas and Asains nominated this year. Anyone who cries racism is as ignorant as the supposed "racists" they are admonishing.


"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe." -John Guare, Landscape of the Body

Yankeefan007
#7re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 8:54am

There's no racism cry....compared to the others, it just wasn't as mindblowingly good.

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AC126748
#8re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 8:57am

I was replying to MB's post. If Matthew Knowles called the Golden Globes racist when it won Best Picture there, someone is bound to cry racism here.


"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe." -John Guare, Landscape of the Body

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Michael Bennett
#9re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 8:58am

It looks like all three original songs from DREAMGIRLS were nominated.

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madbrian
#10re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 8:58am

How can there be racism? Hudson and Murphy got their noms, but Bill Condon and the producers were snubbed.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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Princeton78
#11re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 8:59am

Dreamgirls was an OK movie. It was nothing spectacular. I've not seen the other BP nominees (except for The Queen), but Dreamgirls got a big "Ehhh" from me when I saw it. I'm surprised at the snub, but not in disagreement with it.


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LouieLovesTheater
#12re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:00am

I've never jumped on this racism bandwagon at the Academy Awards. It may be political but rascist, I just don't think it thinks like that.

I'm super bummed that Dreamgirls lost out on a Best Picture nomination...I think it deserved it. I'm not over the moon about Little Miss Sunshine -- thinking it's a bit overrated for my taste. And while I love Miss Hudson and want her to win more than any other person nominated in any category...I have a bit of a fear for her "lock" win now.

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AC126748
#13re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:00am

Does anybody have a complete list of nominations? I can only find lists with the major nominees online right now.


"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe." -John Guare, Landscape of the Body

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Princeton78
#14re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:01am

Actually, the snub in the BP and BD categories, in my mind, tighten the lock for Hudson and Murphy, as i'm sure Dreamgirls will be rewarded in some way.


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Michael Bennett
#15re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:03am

Performance by an actor in a leading role
Leonardo DiCaprio - BLOOD DIAMOND
Ryan Gosling - HALF NELSON
Peter O'Toole - VENUS
Will Smith - THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS
Forest Whitaker - THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND



Performance by an actor in a supporting role
Alan Arkin - LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE
Jackie Earle Haley - LITTLE CHILDREN
Djimon Hounsou - BLOOD DIAMOND
Eddie Murphy - DREAMGIRLS
Mark Wahlberg - THE DEPARTED



Performance by an actress in a leading role
Penélope Cruz - VOLVER
Judi Dench - NOTES ON A SCANDAL
Helen Mirren - THE QUEEN
Meryl Streep - THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA
Kate Winslet - LITTLE CHILDREN



Performance by an actress in a supporting role
Adriana Barraza - BABEL
Cate Blanchett - NOTES ON A SCANDAL
Abigail Breslin - LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE
Jennifer Hudson - DREAMGIRLS
Rinko Kikuchi - BABEL



Best animated feature film of the year
CARS
HAPPY FEET
MONSTER HOUSE



Achievement in art direction
DREAMGIRLS
THE GOOD SHEPHERD
PAN'S LABYRINTH
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MAN'S CHEST
THE PRESTIGE



Achievement in cinematography
THE BLACK DAHLIA
CHILDREN OF MEN
THE ILLUSIONIST
PAN'S LABYRINTH
THE PRESTIGE



Achievement in costume design
CURSE OF THE GOLDEN FLOWER
THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA
DREAMGIRLS
MARIE ANTOINETTE
THE QUEEN



Achievement in directing
BABEL
THE DEPARTED
LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA
THE QUEEN
UNITED 93



Best documentary feature
DELIVER US FROM EVIL
AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH
IRAQ IN FRAGMENTS
JESUS CAMP
MY COUNTRY, MY COUNTRY



Best documentary short subject
THE BLOOD OF YINGZHOU DISTRICT
RECYCLED LIFE
REHEARSING A DREAM
TWO HANDS



Achievement in film editing
BABEL
BLOOD DIAMOND
CHILDREN OF MEN
THE DEPARTED
UNITED 93



Best foreign language film of the year
AFTER THE WEDDING
DAYS OF GLORY (INDIGÈNES)
THE LIVES OF OTHERS
PAN'S LABYRINTH
WATER



Achievement in makeup
APOCALYPTO
CLICK
PAN'S LABYRINTH



Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original score)
BABEL
THE GOOD GERMAN
NOTES ON A SCANDAL
PAN'S LABYRINTH
THE QUEEN



Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original song)
"I Need to Wake Up" - AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH
"Listen" - DREAMGIRLS
"Love You I Do" - DREAMGIRLS
"Our Town" - CARS
"Patience" - DREAMGIRLS



Best motion picture of the year
BABEL
THE DEPARTED
LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA
LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE
THE QUEEN



Best animated short film
THE DANISH POET
LIFTED
THE LITTLE MATCHGIRL
MAESTRO
NO TIME FOR NUTS



Best live action short film
BINTA AND THE GREAT IDEA (BINTA Y LA GRAN IDEA)
ÉRAMOS POCOS (ONE TOO MANY)
HELMER & SON
THE SAVIOUR
WEST BANK STORY



Achievement in sound editing
APOCALYPTO
BLOOD DIAMOND
FLAGS OF OUR FATHERS
LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MAN'S CHEST



Achievement in sound mixing
APOCALYPTO
BLOOD DIAMOND
DREAMGIRLS
FLAGS OF OUR FATHERS
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MAN'S CHEST



Achievement in visual effects
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MAN'S CHEST
POSEIDON
SUPERMAN RETURNS



Adapted screenplay
BORAT CULTURAL LEARNINGS OF AMERICA FOR MAKE BENEFIT GLORIOUS NATION OF KAZAKHSTAN
CHILDREN OF MEN
THE DEPARTED
LITTLE CHILDREN
NOTES ON A SCANDAL



Original screenplay
BABEL
LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA
LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE
PAN'S LABYRINTH
THE QUEEN

Ghosthost999
#16re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:04am

Another example of Eastwood throwing a temper tantrum to get what he wants

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LouieLovesTheater
#17re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:04am

Wow...THREE nominations for Dreamgirls in Original Song? That's pretty decent.

jasobres
#18re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:05am

For anyone who wants a link to the nominations, the nominations are not really complete yet, so it won't be up until probably later tonight.


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Yankeefan007
#19re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:05am

"Another example of Eastwood throwing a temper tantrum to get
what he wants"

He made an excellent movie. Stop sounding bitter.

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Michael Bennett
#20re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:06am

Clint Eastwood doesn't have to throw a temper tantrum. He's the most popluar actor/director/producer in Hollywood.

Frankly, we were all dumbasses to think he and his film wouldn't get nominated.

Ghosthost999
#21re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:10am

He still has, though. After Flags of Our Fathers failed to garner up any oscar buzz, he pissed and moaned untill WB moved Iwo Jima into 2006. He did the same thing a few years ago with Million Dollar Baby(Still easily the worst film i've ever had the misfortune of sitting through)

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madbrian
#22re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:11am

With the three songs from Dreamgirls nominated, any chance we'll see the stars perform them at the Oscars? If so, that would mean Beyonce (Listen), Jennifer Hudson (Love You I Do), and Eddie Murphy & Anika Noni Rose (Patience) would all perform.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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Michael Bennett
#23re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:13am

I disagree ghost. Studios make those kinds of calls. They aren't going to open a film in Oscar season unless they think it has a chance at awards recognition, regardless of how much the director "whines."

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madbrian
#24re: WOW: DREAMGIRLS snubbed for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR Oscar!
Posted: 1/23/07 at 9:15am

MB - do you think Eastwood will win yet another Best Director Oscar, or will Scorcese finally get his due?


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson


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